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Comment · 1 month ago
Well, it already ranks pretty highly in Google search results, so it’s unlikely that Elon’s lawyers haven’t heard of the website.

It has some page where it almost goes out of its way to say that it doesn’t bypass security measures like Nitter and XCancel supposedly did. So Elon might not have even a fig leaf of a legal argument to take it down like he did with the other websites.

It’s also possible that Twitterviewer is just flat out disobeying cease and desist letters from Musk, which nitter and xcancel weren’t willing to risk.

In any case, I find it unlikely that Musk hasn’t heard of Twitterviewer.

Comment · 2 months ago
X lost data scraping lawsuits against both Bright Data and and the Center for Countering Digital Hate. Meta also lost a data scraping lawsuit against Bright Data.

Based on these past losses, it seems highly unlikely that X would win a data scraping lawsuit against nitter, xcancel, or twitterwebviewer.

However, I think that X's real goal is to force the nitters to go through the legal process if they want to stay online. X's hope is that nitter and xcancel and twitterwebviewer will shut down rather than hiring expensive lawyers and going through the exhausting legal process.

Comment · 2 months ago
Old Reddit is posts from before something like 2009. You now have to login to view Old Reddit.

https://old.reddit.com/login/?reason=lor2&dest=https%3A%2F%2...

It's not that important of a loss in the grand scheme of things. It's probably less than 1% of the posts that have ever been made on the Reddit website, since Reddit was a pretty small and obscure website until 2011 or 2012.

But it might be the first step toward making all of Reddit only readable with an account.

Comment · 2 months ago
Twitter's been the worst about forcing you to log in.

Before Elon, Twitter would give him some login reminders roughly every 5-10 minutes if you viewed the site while logged out. It was a little annoying, but it wasn't that bad, and you could get rid of the reminder by just clicking the x button.

Now, under Elon, they force you to login to read any replies to posts. Currently, a person's 5 most recent posts can be viewed without an account, but none of the replies can be.

Reddit is now forcing people to login to view old Reddit. IIRC, old Reddit is posts that are from before 2009 or something like that. It's not that important of a loss in the grand scheme of things, but it might be the first step towards making the entire Reddit website login only.

Comment · 2 months ago
XCancel is a different website, but they just put up a notice literally a few minutes ago saying that they're also shutting down until they get legal advice. For the past few hours, xcancel had been marginally functional (constantly giving you an error message if you tried more than 2 or 3 searches at a time), but now the website is down altogether.

Twitterwebviewer is still up, but I always preferred nitter and xcancel. And I wouldn't be surprised if twitterwebviewer also goes offline in the next day or two.

Comment · 2 months ago
"For the forseeable future" doesn't sound very good. It's a vague phrase, but it usually isn't used to describe something that will change next week or even next month.

"For the time being" would have sounded like less bad wording than "for the forseeable future."

Comment · 2 months ago
You really are the owner of all the posts who make online. When you post on X, you grant X a license to display your posts, but you still have the copyright to your posts. Same thing if you post on Reddit or Facebook or YCombinator or whatever.

This really is an absurd case, but nitter apparently really wants to err on the side of caution until a judge rules in their favor.

Comment · 2 months ago
Right now, I can do about two searches on xcancel before it gives me the "instances have been rate limited" message. Then if I completely close out of my web browser, clear my web history from the last hour, and go back into my web browser, I can do another one or two searches, before xcancel again gives me that message about ""instances have been rate limited".

In theory I can still read the same things I could read before on xcancel by doing an endless cycle of doing one or two searches, then closing out of my web browser and clearing history, and then going back to xcancel and doing another search or two. But certainly that process is very annoying.

Now, I'm not 100% sure if this is related to Musk's cease and desist letter. I've run into this problem or similar technical problems about twice a month before when using XCancel. Usually the technical problem is resolved within 2 or 3 hours and I can use xcancel normally again. So I guess I'll check back in a few hours and see if I can use xcancel normally again.

Edit: Xcancel is working perfectly if you first go to somebody's X profile, and then you turn the x in the url to xcancel. For example, here is Elon Musk's profile on xcancel, where you can still view Elon's tweets, Elon's replies, and the replies that people have made to Elon's tweets.

https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/with_replies

XCancel still has a problem right now where I can only make a few searches on the xcancel website itself before it tells me I'm rate limited, and I have to sign out of the browser and sign back in before I can make searches on xcancel again.

However, I occasionally have had this problem on xcancel even before today. And I'd assume that this probably isn't related to the cease and desist letter. If this was due to the cease and desist letter, I'd assume that xcancel would be completely down right now rather than having limited functionality.

Comment · 2 months ago
A similar case Musk filed against an Israeli data scraping firm already got laughed out of court.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-corp-loses-lawsuit-aga...

But I guess the nitter owner doesn't want to take any chances until he actually gets a court ruling in his favor.

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