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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-12-02/the-bl...
This doesn't really translate to "a flow of wealth from working classes and savers to the bankers and the managerial class". Rather, the impact on inequality is that it reduces the purchasing power of those not benefiting from the increased supply of money and credit. As these tend to be the poorest individuals in society, inequality is made worse.
There is however no reason for banks to have a monopoly on these services and every reason to encourage decentralised systems to develop. You claim that people don't want autonomy when this is clearly untrue. It's easy to assume this if speaking from a position of privilege, however there are more than a few edge cases where autonomy is required. A dissident in HK, an anonymous donor in Turkey, a worker in Venezuela, or perhaps even someone in the West wishing to make an international payment but not wanting to wait 2-5 days for a SWIFT payment to clear whilst also incurring a number of handling and transaction fees.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons for wanting a decentralised alternative to banking. Just recently there was an article posted on here about how money is used as a system of control. [0] Even under the best case scenario of well regulated financial institutions in a functioning democracy there is still little recourse/accountability if these institutions or the government decides to freeze your accounts. [1]
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21043888 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21044914
Any bank card works, so does Apple/Android pay. Even the prepaid card can be purchased from a self-service machine in less than a minute and topped up via an app.
> There are surely existing regional taxes.
The only broadly administered regional tax in the UK is the council tax. This only covers property owners. There is no other regional taxation - certainly not one that is broader. You also vastly underestimate the public opposition to taxes versus fare increases.
> Professionals working in the inner city don't pay different transit fares than janitors working in the inner city. ...and you don't want a pricing signal...
People pay different rates based on how close to the centre they commute to. Typically professionals commute further because the white collar jobs are located in the centre, blue collar workers on the other hand tend look for work close to where they live and are more likely to travel outside of peak hours.
As for the price signal, it plays a hugely important part. It enables fares to change depending on demand in order to spread out congestion rather than having everyone commute at rush hour (infrastructure cannot support unlimited travellers and public transport is most certainly a scarce resource that requires rationing). The price signal also provides a strong incentive to cycle/walk by imposing a marginal cost on each journey. This incentive would be completely lost if you'd already been taxed, leading to over-consumption and environmental costs.
Your plan would also mean that residents would effectively subsidise the travel of all outsiders - which for cities like London (which get huge amounts of tourists and external commuters) would impose an unfair cost on the residents.
Although the administration cost is not zero, it is almost certainly negligible enough that moving to a taxpayer funded model would increase these costs. This is particularly true given that transport budgets are operated at the regional level and would require the introduction of new regional taxes rather than simply relying on exiting tax revenue. (The politics of passing any new tax legislation would be a monumental hurdle in the first instance).
Then there is the question of whether a broad tax is more equitable then the current model. I fail to see how this could be the case given the current system retains the price signal and through a system of concessions ensures that those who most benefit from the provision (e.g. professional working in the inner city) contribute the most and effectively subsidise fares for the rest of society.
You mention Oyster cards so I'll assume you're talking about London in which case the operator (TfL) clearly states that "Fares are the single largest source of our income (projected to be 47% in 2019/20)". [0]
This income more than covers the operational costs, with the difference being used to support new infrastructure projects and upgrades such as the Elizabeth Line (as well as concessions for students, the elderly, etc).
Clearly there is a very strong argument for charging.
[0] https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tfl/how-we-work/how-we-ar...
Because their position is naive and lacks any serious economic or political justification. Even assuming that their beliefs are sincerely held, this would not be the correct course of action to go about inciting change.
As the article touches upon, each additional tourist presents an increase in the external costs they impose on everyone else. These costs may manifest in price increases (more expensive accommodation) or in other ways (longer queues, disruptions to locals, etc). Taxes are very much needed so that tourists bare the true cost of their presence. This will achieve the desired outcome of reducing tourist numbers by pricing some people out and making alternative destinations more appealing relative to their price.
Tourism is a luxury and there is no serious case to be made that cities should have to effectively subsidise the demand of travellers so that everyone can see the world.
Comparing them to the mom and pop coffee shop is absurd - unlike the coffee shop, there are not hundreds of Amazon competitors that you can sell your product through. You are literally comparing textbook definitions of perfectly competitive markets (e.g. coffee shops - hundreds of competitors and low barriers to entry) to oligopoly markets (e.g. Amazon - very few competitors and high barriers to entry), and somehow reaching the conclusion that they are the same? This is obviously nonsense and goes against the most basic of economic principles.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/19/heres-why-retailers-should-b...
In the case of Amazon there are sufficient barriers to entry that if Amazon were to make profit maximisation its goal, then it could increase prices and enjoy above market returns for a significant period even in spite of the eventual 'possibility' of competition.
To suggest that regulators should wait until the market is fully captured before considering a firm a monopoly is patently absurd since by then the efficiency losses would have already been realised and the remedy becomes harder to implement.
Also, I urge you to find anyone who agrees that there has been an increase in the quality of products available on Amazon. On the contrary, there are countless stories of people lamenting the decline in product quality.
A fiscal stimulus of that size would almost certainly drive demand (during a pandemic that has caused a negative supply shock) and therefore increase inflation.