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I didn't know about salt! The internet is full of lovely tools! Although it does look generate really dated looking pictures but definitely interested in looking at its parser etc.

Thanks!

I left my job (Embedded software engineer, linux, raspberrypi, no web, no javascript) to dive into NoCode and started bubble freelancing and then quickly a bubble agency by hiring/building a team in Pakistan..

Tried a few other platforms (wappler, adalo) but not much luck. Focusing only on bubble now.

So a marketplace booking system with payments would be that.

Sports venue sign up and configure their fields (5v5 indoor, 11v11), onboard to Stripe Connect Express. Public booking page for the venue.

Players booking and reserving. Sharing invite URL with other players who can add themselves to the roster and make payments.

Venue sees bookings and payments.

This one is half done and I'm really excited about it.

Haven't had one go yet.

The business tooling is built to stay in bubble. SME/Cost. Many MVPs died. Some still MVP stage iterating.

Debugging the NoCode part in bubble is super super super easy.

When logged into bubble, add ?debug_mode=true in URL.

See the bottom toolbar. Step by step through any workflow action. (Event based paradigm) or inspect any element and check any state/property. Not chrome inspect tools. Bubble has its own debugging.

Backend debugging is slightly trickier. The logs are harder to read. Sprinkling some database entries makes it easy

Not yet. The data can be accessed via API endpoints. So a script could fetch it and populate a new database.

The tricky part would be user authentication. It's built in. So those would need to slowly migrate and need a strategy.

100% agree. Great case for standard CRUD apps and has a coded plugin framework where some nodejs can extend if needed

Depends on the application.

If it is a business that needs Standard CRUD, relational dB backend, a front end. The web app is in a zone that is perfectly viable and can stay in bubble.

Cosmetic Limitations can easily be overcome with custom plugins built using nodejs. We had to parse a large CSV once and wrote a bit of JavaScript to overcome it.

What I wouldn't do in bubble - make a game. Tricky stuff. - intensive math on bubble server. E.g. any machine learning should be done elsewhere. - make something like bubble in bubble. Nope. Don't.

Ok I'll elaborate.

I really really miss git, version control systems, pull requests, automated ci checks etc.

Imagine a world without git and version control systems. Then apply that to NoCode.

Who changed which line. When did it happen. These things are normal with code/git. But not with NoCode/bubble (yet Jul2021).

Which file is the master. Which change to merge.

And then throw 30 software engineers at the project. Chaos will happen.

The comment was less about architecture and more about version control and merging which is still early days in the world of bubble compared to software engineering

The wall is definitely there. And the wall keeps moving further and further away.

Totally right about the right tool for the job. And yes NoCode is the right tool for many simple crud apps.

It seems like all the comments here are from non bubble users.

We have worked on over 20 client projects in the past 1.5 years using bubble.

Specialising exclusively in bubble now.

A way to describe the platform would be WordPress for Web Apps.

There was a census recently. ~75% clients are startup/MVPs ~25% SME making business tooling

Out client portfolio is similar.

I've hired fresh graduates in Pakistan, trained them in 2 weeks. And now have them working on a customer production app.

I've also taught bubble bootcamps. After 8 weeks of weekly 2 hour zoom sessions, I doubt you'll get much progress in a coded bootcamp. But these guys were building their app ideas. All sorts of backgrounds. Accountant. Art student. Podcast editor etc.

I have a client who needs a quick 2 week MVP. Done. I have a client whose 40+ employees use bubble app daily across four counting. Core business tooling.

The four pieces needed for a web app are Design Logic Data Hosting.

Bubble combines all that and reduces the barrier to entry.

No need to make comments like the famous Dropbox comment. Why not just SSH sftp xyz.

NoCode is definitely rising. We have won bids against coding agencies due to cost/time. The competing coded agency suggested 3 months. I quoted 2 months.

The day rate is somewhat similar. The speed is much faster. Very much needed for MVPs

That being said. There are drawbacks. You can throw 30 software engineers and have a system and increase velocity that way. However, bubble/NoCode is more suited to small teams (afaict yet)

Feel free to ask me anything.

Bubble.io coach, bootcamp instructor, agency owner here. Bubble all day every day.

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