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Don't be evil,...except when it comes to hiring & labor practices.

I am on year 13 of their fantasy sports site. I'm going to know what works and what doesn't. From applets to flash to mobile....Not to be a jerk, but do you? Otherwise don't have this conversation with me.

These idiots keep screwing with their products. Thank god Yahoo is now only a secondary email for me. They removed tabs, the tabs were a great convenience. They fubared their fantasy sports site, recently added back the white theme, amidst a massive backlash.

I just don't get it, why mess with all this so damn often, and piss users off....

Anyone know if Toptal is legitimate? They advertise all over LinkedIn. I contacted them and it seems like they don't really have a personal approach or connection to the dev talent.

I need to slot myself in on a calendar for a skype call, and no reply to my questions? I can't find any reviews on them either.

" All it does is cause the company to move operations offshore."

If this worked, then we wouldn't be having this visa discussion.

True, but they are related though. Both worlds don't happen in a bubble, eventually the consequences affect all of us here. We have one part of the nation axing millions of people without any intention/need to hire again, and another set saying they are in dire need of employees. Logically the companies would look at the existing labor pool, and try investing in training for the most capable of that set whether its 10% 20% or even 2% of that pool.

However none of that is happening. Companies do not want to do that of course, and why would they? The government subsidizes the training through college. The loans are unaffordable, and the returns are not even there for anyone other than the brightest/most capable (however that's scored) 20%. Companies don't care, they aren't on the hook for those costs. Now that that pool is nearly exhausted, companies are lobbying Congress for immigration reform that will bring cheaper younger talent over. Companies assume minimal risk in the current format. And by forcing the # of the visas up, they can suppress wages, there was an article even on IT wages last week about that. This current format is bad for US Citizens, Green Card Holders, and a substantial set of Visa Holders as well.

They spent 30 days on logos meanwhile butchered their sports site. So many errors and so many inconsistencies, you can't even look at player game logs anymore. One page is all in black, while others have the old look(better) in white.

And the kicker is that they role it out a 2 weeks before fantasy football starts. You cannot even move to another site in time.

All this time spent on self promotion, and so little spent on execution.

I am a frustrated consumer, and all I get are logos for 30 days....who gives a blank.

Anecdotal evidence, and looking at outliers like Standford grads (not even 15yr vets mind you) should be tossed aside.

Neither represent the overall technology picture. Wages have stagnated, so "Boo, got to take a pay cut" won't happen, but you may not get a raise for 1-2-3 years which in effect is a pay cut.

Bezos has a halo, but I don't believe in angels.

For journalism to be truth, it must remain independent.

Personal experience...while I am sure you felt this way it has no legs in this argument. I can provide mine and other anecdotal evidence on the contrary.

Whether a person can leave the job or not with their visa still doesn't address the overall premise that visas suppress wage growth.

At the very minimum these articles site a study, and there are more than 1.

And what about NPR? You should read that, and put your bias aside.

What you think and feel I am sure is valid, but has little value in the context of the overall immigration problem and argument.

I still don't see how you know Google pays above or at market rate.

I sat there point by point with articles on why this would lead to lower wages, startup or body shop or google, and you come back with 4 lines. I'm not going to defend my points again until I see some actual evidence to refute my position.

Can you give me the citation where "there are companies like Google which don't hire foreign workers for the sake of underpaying them"

Can you show me just one article where the H1b's are above a prevailing wage? Or that is the actualy truth?