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A teleteaching environment for Prolog: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/ulrich/gupu/

Introduction to modern Prolog: https://www.metalevel.at/prolog

Prolog on Stackoverflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/prolog

Prolog on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/prolog/

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Comment · 8 years ago
Whatever it does, I expect Emacs to not crash.

If it cannot allocate more memory, I expect it to throw a Lisp exception that tells me so, not to crash the whole process.

I greatly appreciate Daniel's work to increase the robustness of Emacs, because it means that there will be fewer situations where a process crash leads to lost work for users. In addition, increasing the robustness of Emacs in such cases will also greatly broaden the set of test cases that can be run reliably, and hence help to detect and correct even more issues.

Comment · 8 years ago
You can crash Emacs for example with the recipe from #2099:

   $ emacs -Q --eval "(let (v) (while t (setq v (cons v v))))"
In response to how such deep structures can arise: They may for example arise when testing Emacs with randomly generated code snippets. For testing edge cases, it is highly desirable that Emacs run robustly also in such situations.
Comment · 8 years ago
These are very good points! I would generalize "functional" to declarative though:

Logic programming languages like Prolog and Mercury are also much more amenable to parallelization than C-like languages.

In fact, different Prolog clauses could in principle be executed in parallel without changing the declarative meaning of the program, at least as long as you stay in the so-called pure subset of the language which imposes certain restrictions on the code.

Comment · 8 years ago
Prolog has definite clause grammars (DCGs), which are very similar to monads.

You can think of a DCG as giving you two implicit arguments, which you can use to express concatenations and in fact arbitrary relations between states.

There are also ways to access these implicit arguments, which are similar to the corresponding constructs in Haskell.

DCGs are a very important feature of Prolog. They are frequently used for parsing and state transformation tasks. Like monads in Haskell, DCGs often make working with immutable data much more convenient, because you can make the more uninteresting parts of your code implicit. Other logic programming languages like Mercury also support DCGs.

Comment · 8 years ago
Yes, indeed!

Please note that what makes this reasoning method so easily applicable in this case is uniformity of the abstract syntax, not of the surface syntax, which is also called concrete syntax.

Homoiconicity is a relation between the concrete and abstract syntax tree (AST) of programs and the language's built-in data structures.

Comment · 8 years ago
For one particular example where homoiconicity makes reasoning about programs easier, consider an important reasoning method called abstract interpretation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_interpretation

Using abstract interpretation, you can derive interesting program properties. The uniformity and simplicity of Prolog code, as well as its built-in language constructs like unification and backtracking, make it especially easy to write abstract interpreters for Prolog.

Here is a paper that applies this idea to derive several interesting facts about programs and their meaning:

Michael Codish and Harald Søndergaard, Meta-circular Abstract Interpretation in Prolog (2002) https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F3-540-36377-7_6

Abstract interpretation is also applicable to other programming languages. However, it is much easier to apply to homoiconic languages like Prolog.

Comment · 8 years ago
Comment · 8 years ago
In my experience, that is an overgeneralization, though definitely a tempting one that is frequently encountered.

That being said, I find that Prolog code is often more readable than Lisp code. An important reason for this is that Prolog supports prefix, infix and postfix operators that can be defined as part of the concrete syntax. On the level of the abstract syntax tree, all terms conform to the inductive definition, so this is only a notational convenience.

Comment · 8 years ago
To distinguish homoiconic languages from others (where you may also "operate on the parse tree just the same as you can on regular program data"), a bit more qualification is needed though.

For example, in typical cases, reasoning about such data structures (lists in Lisp, terms in Prolog, bytes in assembly code etc.) is very convenient in homoiconic languages, and in fact I think one could rightfully regard this ability to conveniently reason about a program's abstract syntax tree via built-in language mechanisms as a key advantage of homoiconic languages.

Comment · 8 years ago
In my opinion, this article puts too much emphasis on reading, and too little emphasis on actually reasoning about programs in homoiconic languages like Prolog and Lisp, and due to this imbalance the conclusion is not sufficiently justified.

It is true: Being able to "read without parsing" is definitely nice.

But that is only a subset of those advantages that a homoiconic language gives you. An at least equally important advantage is due to the fact that programs in homoiconic languages are typically very easy to reason about by built-in mechanisms in that language.

For example, Prolog programs are readily represented as Prolog terms, and can be easily reasoned about by built-in mechanisms such as unification.

Since I regard it as a key advantage of homoiconic languages that their abstract syntax is completely uniform and can typically be easily reasoned about within such languages, I disagree with the main point that the article is trying to make.

One interesting fact about homoiconicity is that extremely low-level languages (like assembly code) and extremely high-level languages (like Prolog) are homoiconic, yet there is a large gap "in the middle", where there are many languages (like Java, C, Python etc.) that lack this property.

Comment · 8 years ago
Yes, very much so.

In addition, some of the automated translators I have seen also apply automated refactoring: They tend to merge similar sections of code and minimize the delta (similar to diff) that is factored out. This can create a maintenance problem especially in the context of a system like the IRS's, where presumably the code that performs calculations for different years or other periods (legislations etc.) is similar but not identical, but must be retained as fully as possible to reliably perform calculations that are subject to earlier regulations.

Such portions of code should be kept distinct, but an automated conversion may conflate them, and it may require additional and error-prone fiddling to enforce the separation.

Comment · 8 years ago
Although it may appear a bit surprising at first, assembly language is homoiconic in the sense that you can easily reason about the program code within the language: It is easy to reason about bytes in assembler language, and compiled assembler code is just a sequence of bytes.

This is similar to high-level languages like Lisp and Prolog, whose code is readily represented by built-in data structures in the respective language.

A fun fact about this is that extremely low-level (like assembly) and extremely high-level (like Prolog) languages are homoiconic, but there is a large gap "in the middle" (like Java, C), where there are many languages that lack this property.

Comment · 8 years ago
I agree, and recommend Biomake:

https://github.com/evoldoers/biomake

It uses the declarative programming language Prolog to write flexible rules.

A logic programming language like Prolog is very well suited for expressing rule-based dependencies.

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