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No worries, but an attribution link back would be appreciated.

Yeah, I didn't get in either.

I think that's just called "code".

> Am I naive for thinking that nothing like that should take as long as 6-9 months in the happy case and that it's absurd for it to not succeed at all?

Bluntly, yes. And so is every other reply to you that says "no this isn't naive", or "there's no reason this project shouldn't have finished". All that means is that you've not seen a truly "enterprise" codebase that may be bringing in tons of business value, but whose internals are a true human centipede of bad practices and organic tendrils of doing things the wrong way.

Twilio owns Authy

> Did you actually use the command you ended up with?

Yes! Note that I had to use my domain knowledge to sift through the options and eliminate the garbage, but the experience was just _faster_ than repeated searches and digging through ad-laden garbage sites.

Here's my pet example...feel free to google around yourself on this.

Problem: I want an AWS CLI command line that requests a whole bunch of wildcard certificates from AWS Certificate Manager (ACM) for a TLD.

Ostensible solution: the AWS official docs have a small snippet to achieve this, BUT -- the snippet on the official page is inadvisable as it leads to a browser cert warning.

So I (skeptically) asked ChatGPT for a command line to achieve what I was trying to do.

Try 1: got basically the snippet from the AWS official docs (but with the inadvisable flag set to the _Correct_ value, strangely)

Prompt 2: please give me more best practice options

Try 2: get back a bunch of new CLI options and their meanings. 3 are useful. 1 is hallucinated. 1 is deprecated.

Prompt 3: keep going with more options

Try 3: 2 more useful new options, 2 more options I chose not to use

As a skeptic, the overall experience was much more efficient that googling around or even reading a manpage. I put it all on the fact that context is maintained between questions, so you don't have to repeat yourself when asking for clarifications.

A lot of the value comes from follow-up questions. Imagine being able to interrogate a StackOverflow answer with new constraints and details. Not always correct, but in some cases, faster that typing in a new search term and parsing a screen full of links.

> What we're showing is that Rama creates a new era in software engineering where the cost of building applications at scale is radically reduced.

Bold of you to come to HN with the breathless hyperbolic marketing fluff that may work on Twitter...

> but it WILL surplant IP eventually.

The painful move from IPv4 to IPv6 suggests that this is unlikely. More likely is an overlay over IP, TCP, or even HTTPS.

There may be a clue in the story we’re commenting on.