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Comment · 26 days ago
I shouldn't be surprised that this news and Ms. Carson are popular here, but I am and it is delightful.
Comment · 2 months ago
Your comment persuaded me that just explaining my prompt methodology is insufficient.
With Claude's help, I ran some tests against nine different translations including Peter Green's line-matched translation, the closest method-matched human control. 36 human-vs-human pairings as controls.
Murray (the published translation of the Greek, Loeb source) and Lattimore affinities are genuinely elevated. Fagles is modest but not totally absent. The test can't exclude 4-6-word mosaic composition, and doesn't measure interpretive influence.
The longest shared passage in the 12,107 lines is 29 words. Long-fragment assembly is strongly disfavored by synthetic-splice calibration. The translation resembles Green as much as it resembles Murray, or three times as strongly as it resembles Fagles' famous one. That strikes me as being in the opposite direction from what training data-regurgitation would predict.
https://theclaudyssey.com/independence.html
Methodological corrections welcomed
Comment · 2 months ago
I love Wilson's work and take it as inspiration. Incidentally, I spotted an error in the first printing of her Odyssey that the publisher acknowledged on twitter and fixed in subsequent printings. I am not a professional, just an obsessive with a special interest. In a spirit of intellectual honesty, the fact that she is reportedly re-translating The Odyssey again is an indication that one of perfect adequacy might be elusive.
Comment · 2 months ago
I find it to be cross between Richmond Lattimore and Ian Johnston. There are line-level annotations that discuss translation choices and a hyperlinked index w/ Latinate pronunciations was also built from scratch.
Comment · 2 months ago
No. I am saying that I had Fable do a literal word for word translation, and then did two independent review pass translations with models of different lineages and then had another adjudicate it. I am just saying what I did, that is all. It occurs to me as I am typing this that a human translator working on an Odyssey translation today would have similar "prior training," culturally. It's one of two of our oldest stories.
Comment · 2 months ago
This took a lot more tokens and time than I expected it to. Even before the review passes.
Comment · 2 months ago
It is just a domain for the project's github page. All the files, YouTube uploads, etc., are The Odyssey or Homer's Odyssey.
Comment · 2 months ago
The only thing Fable was given was a clean of copy of the ancient Greek. This is not a bastardization of other translations. I appreciate and value the critical feedback in any case (truly).
I find that Fagles is very majestic -wonderful, really- but he's also very liberal (poetically) and definitely did not limit himself to the same number of lines as Homer as this project did.
Comment · 2 months ago
I love the poem and wanted a modern translation with annotations and index, etc., to be freely available to anyone who wanted to read it. I had a sense that Fable would do a really good job. I am pleased with how it came out. The review agents didn't change a single word of the translation, only some of the notes.
Comment · 2 months ago
12,107 line-for-line translation of the A.T. Murray Greek text (Loeb, 1919) by Claude Fable. Includes line notes and an index. HTML, epub, pdf, and YouTube Audio (by gpt4o-TTS). A dual-agent review pass was done on the entire work with a third "adjudication" agent reconciling their findings. Reviewer agnets were gpt-5.6-sol high reasoning.
Comment · 4 months ago
I made a more stylized html version from the Gutenberg copy:
https://spinchange.github.io/memoirs-of-extraordinary-popula...
Comment · 4 months ago
Lots of commentary from an unnamed White House source characterizing Anthropic as being "unserious," without further elaboration.
I want to point out that when the commentary by export-ban apologists devolves into talking about perceiving Anthropic as being "leftist," they're not having safety or even a technology-centric conversation anymore. They're making a baised political statement of intent about seeking domination and control over technology for capricious, arbitrary and self-interested reasons.