Recent submissions

Comment · 2 years ago
I read the article you sent, it doesn't prove your point.
Comment · 2 years ago
Ok how about any thinker.
Comment · 2 years ago
Can you send me writing or video of any serious thinker advocating for this? The OP is a common straw-man characterization of the position I described.
Comment · 2 years ago
That's a mischaracterization. No one is _for_ inequality. The opposition you speak of is _for_ race/gender blind meritocracy. Anyone with a little knowledge of economics understands that groups of people cut across any dimension will always have different outcomes; Russian Americans earn more than French Americans, Japanese Americans earn more than Fillipino Americans, taller people earn more than shorter people, etc.

No one thinks inequality is desirable. The opposition you speak of think it's unavoidable. And bad public policy will have effects that make the situation worse for everyone.

Comment · 2 years ago
It actually has been going away on it's own. There's no way anyone can deny America hasn't made enormous progress across gender/racial lines in the last 50 years. Moreover, there's no way anyone can deny the discrimination you're talking about is at a civilizational/historical all-time low. Compared to most of the world and history, America in 2024 is MUCH less racist and sexist, and yet people shriek about it now more than our ancestors did in the 60's and earlier.

Differences will always exist between groups and there are a plethora of economic reasons why beyond 'systemic racism/sexism'. Russian-American's aren't paid the same as French-Americans. Nigerian-Americans earn more than the average white American. Bostonians have a different average income than Texans. 30 year olds have a different income than 31 year olds. Blue eyed people earn differently than green eyed people. Taller, prettier people earn more than shorter, less pretty people. How do you propose we determine exactly how much of these differences are due to 'discrimination' vs. the hundreds of other reasons these differences might exist?

The world is unfair in a variety of ways. But one thing that's painfully obvious from a cursory investigation of public policy, is that way too often, well intentioned policy measures end up doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what they were intended to do.

For example affirmative action has been a demonstrable failure. If you're admitted to a school like Harvard with lower SAT scores simply because of the color of your skin, you do worse than going to a school where you would be in the top 10% of SAT scorers. On top of that, you give people a reason to believe you're less qualified knowing your race got preferential treatment. Congratulations, everyone is now worse off because superficially the policy sounded like a nice idea. Racism has gone up and you unwittingly f-ed over the person who you tried to help by putting them in a situation they couldn't compete in.

"If you have better idea of how to resolve that injustice, let's hear it." Focus on restoring two-parent households cross-racially. The rise of single motherhood in America has a colossally negative impact on children, specifically for the lower-class. The effects permeate generationally. You could do this in a way that unites people instead of dividing it by race. Push for public policy that incentivizes two-parent households. Attacking race/gender-blind meritocracy is not the way.

Comment · 2 years ago
You seem to realize yourself that categorizing people just on race/gender isn't compelling, which is why in your examples you also add the economic conditions to make your point sound correct.

The idea you espouse, in practice, justifies injustice. It's asking children to pay for the sins of their parents. And everyone (even the people who supposedly benefit from this idea) will suffer as a consequence in the long run. You unwittingly sow the seeds of _more_ racial/gender animus, not less.

Comment · 2 years ago
DAE think this whole fiasco might've been intentional? Seems like such a glaring flaw in the system. The public reaction was predictable, as well as the stock reaction....
Comment · 2 years ago
True, my hope is people interpret the question in a more universal, symbolic way.
Comment · 2 years ago
Tried not to. I know God implies monotheism and the Michelangelo painting suggests Christianity but I hope people can look past that if they don't like it.
Comment · 2 years ago
Doing some independent research. If anyone has better questions let me know!

Live from the official Hacker News API

A modern reader for Hacker News · SvelteKit + Skeleton