samjones33

I was part of a team building a complex web gui. We started the project in 2015. The GUI had a _lot_ of cascading business logic, an editable high-density grid, all kinds of fun.

In our tools evaluation, React just had too much overhead. changes would trigger a huge cascade of events that killed responsiveness. We went with Backbone and it served us very well.

I know React is king, but so far I have managed to live without it.

>I don't think "getting invaded" counts as "choosing offensive war".

Do you know what Hamas is?

Do you know their charter?

Do you know that they diverted billions of $, meant to build housing for Gazans to their own pockets and to a huge underground fortress under a civilian population?

Do you know that most Gazans support Hamas, and that Hamas has made many offensive wars against the civilians and armies of both Israel and Egypt? (Hamas killed dozens of Egyptian soldiers running wild in Egyptian Rafah in 2014... Know what Egypt did? Leveled hundreds of housing structures)

Hamas has been in a state of war since the day they took power in Gaza.

Hamas has murdered hundreds of Palestinians, including many who worked for peace.

What do you want to see?

More violence and blood?

Or more peace?

Promote what you want to see.

(Digging out the 100's of miles of offensive tunnels in Gaza is slow slow work. Hamas could end the war any time, but they will never surrender. They will fight to the last Gazan child. Do you want that?)

That is polling, that isn't reality.

I live here. In places like Jerusalem, Jews and Arabs are together all day, every day. 40% of the police officers in Jerusalem are Arabs.

What is your problem?

Why do you selectively omit the polls of Arabs and Palestinians... about lots of things.... (attitudes to Jews, support of violent Jihadist groups, etc etc)

If you want peace, push for peace.

If you want violence and blood, keep doing what you are doing.

What is the life expectancy of a body politic that chooses ongoing offensive war?

That is not a well thought out question. The answer is different in PA controlled areas, non PA areas, and Gaza.

And Gaza's life expectancy is different for members of Hamas vs. non members. And was one thing on October 6, 2023 and October 8, 2023.

Hamas has agency.

They could end the war a year ago or tomorrow.

Why don't they?

I am not saying it is good or desirable.

Do you live in a place that has a death cult committing daily acts of violence and killing (against people on both sides of the fence, of both "ethnicities")?

Do you live in a place where billions are spent on offensive weapons (tunnels, rockets) and stolen from donated food aid (as Hamas has been hijacking aid for many years and selling it at profit)?

If you do not, do you have any idea how a group of people (e.g. a society) responds to ongoing violence and threats of violence?

Your dismissive "constant shifting goalposts and lack of self awareness will always startle me" is the mark of someone who sits in an armchair and experiences no threat.

Beware of being dismissive. This region needs people who push for the hard work of peace and avoid labels and dismisiveness.

There was a peace movement in the 1990s. It accomplished a lot (a million+ Palestinians live under a Palestinian government in the West Bank and Gaza was left to its own devices in 2005).

A death cult (probably two) killed that process. By killing people (including the Israeli Prime Minister). Years earlier, that death cult killed Sadat for his peace making work.

Support those who push for peace.

Call out those who don't.

Well said.

What I try to emphasize is that Hamas has agency. They make the decision to keep fighting, or stop fighting.

To deny Hamas agency is to dehumanize them. They have as much agency as Israel or any other actor.

And they are a death cult.

With two million Gazans between their tunnels and the IDF.

There is no way to make that nice or neat or pleasant.

There is not a single person in the Middle East who maps the behavior of Hamas to that of the PLO in the 1980's.

Hamas is a death cult. They will fight to the last Gazan child.

They have agency. They could end the war tomorrow, or a year ago.

Inventing what, exactly?

The population growth rate in the West Bank and Gaza is higher than that of Europe.

I ain't the one having the babies... The residents of those places are.

Israelis are brutalized, by the actions of Hamas and at having no choice but to fight Hamas in horrible circumstances.

Hamas could have ended the war in Gaza a year ago. Or on October 8 2023.

Do they? No. They will fight to the last Gazan child.

Is it nice that Israelis see no alternative to Gazans being resettled elsewhere? No.

Do you have a path for Gazans to go back to the mid 1990's when 100+ Gazans came to Kibbutz Nir Oz for a peace festival?