rubenfiszel

It's quite impressive that they get performance so close to the leader t0-gamma but unfortunate about the restrictive license

We have over 400+ enterprise customers yet handle all the support with a few engineers. We use Windmill obviously for orchestration but it would work with any orchestrator.

We have bet early on DuckDB and Ducklake for Windmill and couldn't be happier. The focus on server/client mode is interesting, it opens the way for orchestrators like ours to have "lite" workers/jobs for duckdb that connect to one central bigger beefy nodes and improve the overall efficieny. I'm very curious if benchmark shows that there are performance benefits to do so thanks to co-location and overall less cpu cycles wastes.

Would be very cool if as a result the different components were published as crates and embeddable in other rust projects!

workflows is just short for state machine DSL

For the AI workflows, we (windmill.dev) added AI Agent steps as first class primitives very recently.

Founder of windmill.

I'm not ashamed to admit than n8n feels more polished. There are a few reasons:

- Our team was and is still much smaller. We were 5 for the first 2 years, we are now 10 (year 3), and are continuing to hire to follow our growth.

- They have been around for longer and mature for longer, more time to iterate. We have reached some level of maturity recently and are now spending more iterations on polishing rather than new features.

- Their surface area is smaller, windmill does A LOT and expose more for the better or worse.

n8n has done a lot of things really well and although we have a different audience, there is a lot to learn from what they did very well and we have the upmost respect for them. We have some overlap, but I think ultimately we strive in different kind of orgs and will cohabit rather than compete.

> That said, we tried Windmill first and while it was cool for the devs who were able to see the vision, the non-technical users hated it

Founder of Windmill here. This is not too surprising although we are working on it by leveraging AI and just better DX/design. Pleasing devs in the most demanding orgs and the ever-changing expectations is challenging by itself. Pleasing both devs AND non-technical user is a monumental task that we are now giving more attention to by focusing on 2 aspects:

- A better DX/UX that does not sacrifice power-user capabilities but has a less step learning-curve and more intuitiveness to it. That is mostly about good design and hard work. We are taking inspiration from the best and on the intuitiveness, we've learned a lot from n8n and other leaders in the space.

- leveraging AI capabilities in a state-of-the-art way to have the best models generate the code for non-technical users. That is basically just adopting the best practices inspired by cursor such as great auto-completion, great inline code-gen, excellent semantic search.

But the videos show claude web

I feel dumb but how do you actually add Zapier or Confluence or custom MCP on the web version of claude? I only see it for Drive/Gmail/Github. Is it zoned/slow release?