rogerjin

Company still has a significant amount of cash left in the bank that they're returning to investors. Someone below quoted 25m? I wouldn't be surprised if it was even higher.

I think the other commenters are way too harsh on you. While I don't think you really need to apologize in this case, its a classy move regardless.

My personal opinion and standard for customer service (to my customers) is that no matter how rude the customer is (in this case, I personally wouldn't classify Ryan as rude), its my responsibility to be as polite and helpful as humanly possible. Perhaps I just have extra high standards, but for me, the email from Allan reflects pretty bad on Curebit's leadership team.

The actual scan technology is very specific and hard if not impossible (with current tech) to implement on things like a photocopied card. A real card needs to be used.

Informative post. Congrats Keen team!

I 100% agree with your concern, and that is the problem for it extends beyond tech startups to anyone in the world who have this mindset (of which there are many -- the ruthlessly, amorally, ambitious.)

Agreed. One of the best comments I've seen on HN yet.

The product looks great. I'm personally curious about their product roadmap with regards to where they plan to expand on beyond video meetings in the long run. Good luck guys!

"In the end if someone else succeeds with this idea wouldn't that person be stealing the idea as well?"

>> There's an unbelievably huge difference between someone (a complete stranger) realizing this idea by themselves and running with it, versus your friend disclosing his idea/features/strategy to you in good faith and you running with it. MrBurns, there are some things in life more important than money and success, such as not screwing over someone in this way. Shows a complete lack of character. At the risk of sounding condescending, didn't your parents teach you better?

Its not just somewhat immoral, its completely immoral. As my friend who send this thread to me said, "Its one thing to compete with an idea. It's another when someone divulge massive details about everything regarding the idea, and you just come in and try to fuck them over." And yes, while execution is more important than the idea, considering the information was divulged in good faith and you're now just taking the chance to screw him over when he's down, my friend likens your justification to "saying murder is OK because stupid people are making the world dumb." Think about it. It's not OK.

If you really believe this will be a great venture, you should help this guy rather then screw him. And if you really want in on the venture, you should have a serious talk to this person about joining together if you truly realize how bad what you were proposing was, and WITHOUT any ulterior motives. Yes, while he might be too blinded by his passion to make any changes, but you never know until you try.

I can't believe more people haven't stated this, but honestly stealing his idea is an UBER dick move. I can't believe you're even considering this, wow. There's plenty of ideas out there, you don't need to be lazy AND immoral to steal this guy's idea, especially since he trusted the two of you to discuss ideas in good faith. ESPECIALLY since you guys supposedly regularly meet up just to discuss ideas. I would seriously recommend you listen to your conscience and don't do it. It's really a dick move.