redtuesday
Joined 13 years ago
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[0] https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/7343-leading-edge-log...
Luckily it seems AMD can probably deliver both with Zen 2. For Epyc the roadmap suggest a 50% increase in core count [0] over Zen 1, and since Ryzen and Threadripper uses the same die as Epyc this will most likely trickle down to Ryzen 3xxx and Threadripper 3xxx.
Depends on your game and monitor I guess. Quite a few people seem to buy ugly 144hz gaming monitors and some games like Warhammer and Far Cry 5 can have ~20 fps difference at the same clocks at 1080p.
> I feel that most of these attacks at AMD and their CPU-s tend to bend the truth a lot, and that isn't surprising, given the shady tactics that Intel has employed previously.
Most of the time the limiting factor is not the CPU but the GPU anyway. The good thing about AMD closing the gap or potentially even overtaking Intel in single threaded performance is that the fanboys, fangirls and corporate shills have one argument less for spreading FUD and suggesting Intel over AMD.
[0] there are even (unlikely) rumors floating around about a 64 core Epyc, but I don't see that happening before 7nm+ on EUV.
default clocks: https://i.imgur.com/dU3aI35.png
normalized clocks: https://i.imgur.com/wg3SQUd.png (sadly they have not normalized memory clocks)
In single threaded games this can be even more apparent. But Intel is mainly faster because of a significant clock advantage. Clock for clock the advantage is small.
I'm looking forward to Zen 2 which could allow AMD to close the IPC gap or even get a bit ahead of Intel. Combined with the 7nm process which should allow better clocks it's looking good for AMD.
Question is if AMD uses the high performance process which is touted to allow up to 5 ghz [0] at the cost of increased power usage, or if they use the low power process (which is also more affordable). Since Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc use the same die probably the latter since power consumption is so important in the data center.
[0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/12438/the-future-of-silicon-a...
[0] https://twitter.com/david_schor/status/1022142835989118977
In order to not affect their pro GPU sales they could maybe limit the number of virtual GPUs from 16 to 2, which would be enough for the host and a single guest.
[0] or Nvidia, I don't care, but since Nvidia is the market leader they have less incentive than AMD.
Which is good because if I remember correctly the human skin has quit a bit natural sun protection, but is only fully developed in the twenties.
If I got that mixed up with something else please correct me if I'm wrong.
Copy paste from my posting yesterday:
EDIT: it seems the twitter post got deleted.
EDIT2: anandtech still has the pictures: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13119/intels-xeon-scalable-ro...
> If the rumor [0] that Intel's first 10nm server chip will only release mid 2020 is true, then AMD's shares will probably skyrocket again if they truly can release their Zen 2 server CPU mid 2019 (on 7nm which is comparable to Intel's 10nm).
[0] https://twitter.com/david_schor/status/1022142835989118977