ramit
Joined 18 years ago
Joined 18 years ago
In general, you will not get nearly as much direct traffic as you would think. For example, if I showed you the traffic from the week where I was on a national morning show, you likely wouldn't be able to pick out which day I was on.
However, media works in very interesting ways. It does affect book sales, particularly in retail stores. And media begets more media, since producers watch other TV shows.
But it's very mysterious and much more of a black art than direct traffic/measurable media.
Give it another look. If you still think my stuff is scammy, well, you're entitled to your own opinion.
But don't let your heuristic of "talking about money = scam!" get in the way.
There is some extremely valuable stuff in my blog and courses, and 99% of it is free.
For other interesting studies on health: http://delicious.com/ramitsethi/health
I know of a direct-response guy who had horribly ugly sales pages that literally included misspellings. He tells this story about how all kinds of marketing consultants and designers would come in and say, "Your sales page is so ugly! You need a redesign." He would laugh and say, "Everyone says that. But I have data from the last 5 years, and this is the single best-performing page of all." He made $25m last year.
Sophisticated direct marketers are not to be trifled with.
However, if you're building a company that depends on other non-direct factors like brand, you can't really A/B test that. You just have to make a decision.
A few years back, I met a guy whose girlfriend worked on the optimization team at Amazon. Now THEY are sophisticated. They knew how A/B tweaks would affect users several months later. But even still, Amazon often makes strategic decisions that can't always be justified with data.
Bottom line: It's important to know the advantages and disadvantages of various types of marketing, including direct/brand/etc. But you will have to make some tough choices.
Personally, on my sites, I've seen lots of interesting results with testing designs...but I finally told my staff to stop micro-testing since we'd optimized the hell out of some of our stuff and were only getting incremental gains (e.g., going from 35% opt-in rate to 39% is prohibitively difficult). The biggest results I've gotten have been from strategic changes like changing the offer, adding a new product, pricing changes, back-end offers, deeper customer research, etc.
1. Here are some good books on psychology (specifically behavioral change): http://astore.amazon.com/iwillteachyou-20?_encoding=UTF8&...
2. Hang out with persuasive friends. Try to understand the meta-lessons of what they do. You can ask them, but often people don't have cognitive access to explain what they do, so sometimes you'll just have to observe.
When you combine theory with practice, you can get powerful results.
My major was STS (Science, Technology, and Society) with a minor in psychology. Then I studied sociology in grad school.
What I focused on was social influence, persuasion, and behavioral change. I took courses on negotiation, deception, cults, magic, minority influence, organizational development, group dynamics, arbitration, personality/social psychology, persuasive technology, and a ton more. I was a researcher in the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab for years.
And I mixed it with practical applications of negotiations in the field.
The coursework has helped me dramatically in understanding the motivations, attitudes, and behaviors of others.
I still remember one of my Comm professors talking about how other technical disciplines tend to look down on areas like psych/comm. She said something I'll never forget: "The value isn't in the difficulty of the material, but the usefulness."
I use my social psychology background in my work with people on iwillteachyoutoberich every day.
I'm focusing on helping people earn more via my Earn1k freelancing course right now, so it's basically an IWTYTBR business course. We teach a lot of techniques that can apply to freelancing or even product-based companies.
Btw, thanks for the kind words!
Also find me here: - http://twitter.com/ramit - http://delicious.com/ramitsethi - http://www.quora.com/Ramit-Sethi/answers
Background in social influence, persuasion, and behavioral change. Experience in high-value information products, publishing, pricing, and marketing.
Based in NYC.