postflopclarity

if it is truly a "relatively simple data organization task a child could do" then I simply don't believe that claude/codex are not capable of it. you are probably using the tools ineffectively.

I tend to agree, and unfortunately unlike some of its other more highly-prioritized development areas, this is one deficiency that the language is making very slow (or zero) progress on

this is true of pretty much every software project in existence.

I think there's a very bright future in this regard :)

1.13 is, to-date, the release with the fastest startup times. and AOT compilation continues to be a serious priority for upcoming releases

```

>>> x = [2*53, 2*53 + 2]

>>> statistics.covariance(x, x) 4.0

>>> statistics.variance(x) 2

```

python has plenty of bugs like these too. is this example also "LLM slop" ? I think it's frankly delusional to somehow believe that these issues are unique to Julia.

I have submitted plenty of core contributions, none of which were directed or paid for by VC. the language contributions come from those sufficiently motivated to contribute. if you want to change the direction, you need to do some work.

I am not hostile to criticism.

> If anyone really believes the Python bugs are real, they should report it to Python

I have reported several bugs, both to Python and to Julia.

I'm not going to engage further in this thread, but if you want to continue discussion I'd be happy to chat somewhere else that's a little less clunky

> But most of the supposed "bugs" seem like totally fine/reasonable behaviors to me

exactly. and the same is true for many of the bugs that have been presented as indictments of Julia. but when the same is said of those, the community is called "defensive." so it's a lose-lose.

no.

why do you keep making new accounts?

> It is better than your code, which is probably a low bar.

why so rude and adversarial, especially when so misinformed? AI code is better than 95% of engineers at this point.

nobody "demanded" anything. it's just the most productive way to write code these days. the same is true at the vast majority of software companies (that can afford the $$ on tokens) as well.

I don't have any financial interest in Julia so I'm a bit confused about the reference to "share holders." I'm just a user.

I'm sure there are lots of smart people who found that the language didn't suit their needs. there are also lots of smart people who love using Julia. both things can be true at the same time.