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Finally a sum of money which is at least at the same scale as the wrongdoing.

They have to shut Monsanto down and sentence the decision makers.

Sure, but they are still responsible for the effects. That we can't forget.

Ignoring the complex system they have created is their fault

I'm mostly worried about soy and generally, this human interventionism.

Where you take something that has been with us for 2000 years and replace it with something else, on which it's impossible to have the same amount of data.

Same here, there's a lot to the idea of ying and yang.

It's really hard to discuss nuance here. But for someone who is proud of his moral superiority, you sure didn't try to see where I was coming from.

I'd say it's a layered thing. You start with the right core, but you layer some of these bad characteristics on top. Depending on your environment, you will have to deal with different kinds of people.

Your example is exactly what I mean by balance. But there are more. But itt difficult to showcase my point when your response just leaks out moral superiority, as if you know the backstory to these opinions.

Looking at the relationship between Trump and the media vs any "good guy" and the media. He can, would and did say everything he wanted, and no one batted an eye, it moved no one. Fundamentally a lot of people already thought he was bad, or that he says shit.

But take your "good guy" Joe. That if his image was built on pure goodness, one slip, one mistake and the press would be all over him.

What I'm trying to see is that the arsenal of weapons ( physical, mental) at a bad person's disposal is larger than a purely good person's.

And that is maintained with scale. I'm looking at the weapons bad politicians have and use, vs those that the purely good ones have at their disposal. Especially when the former have power.

There's more to this. But it's hard to have a discussion with someone, who can't see that some of the things bad people do, have a place in this world, and can be employed for a better purpose.

I am in my twenties. I feel the same, just not sure about the negative effects on longterm happiness.

I'm sure there's a balance there to be attained. But knowing you are capable of lying, being a jerk, cheating and what that gives you, is very powerful.

In general I think there's a lot to learn from bad people. Which is an idea lot of people dismiss.

It's not the same anti-evolutionary guude promoted by the EAT foundation is it?

"Approval is a helluva drug". And like any drug we need to overcome it. Quit cold turkey, so we can see it for what it is. Sure, you can dip yourself into it from time to time, but you'll be less of a victim. We have enough of those already

What happens when your stake is big enough in an outcome, that you start pulling strings, legal or not ,for that outcome to happen.

Dude just don't worry about it. A lot of people take offense at just about anything in 2018. They victimize themselves and then just try to shift the blame on you for lack of emotional development.

The toxicity in Snapchat comes from its filter culture, and how they're abused to create a fake and frankly disturbing and disgusting standard of beauty

Because it's easy is not an excuse. When you say that you become a victim and you lose any agency you might have had over this.

But to each his own.

I wouldn't say trade all rationality, but trade some of it in some circumstances. This is especially valid in the hacker news community, where most likely we spend our time in the part of the mind that works with reason.

If you want to try seeing the other side and start marrying the two sides, you should try acting classes. Words, video, lack the dimension to explain to you how that feels on your body.