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> Why do I never hear about this ‘feature’ from American products like gmail which 99% of the HN audience is using? Isn’t USA a member of Five Eyes?

There is lot of hate toward Google (and other top US companies). Especially due to autobanning of accounts, 2FA etc. at the moment people have fastmail as their darling - because they are the underdog, no AI forcing in products (at the moment) etc. It is like stripe from 5 years ago.

Most have given up in snooping. Or you need to go to proton mail but it has other issues. Every company is subject to some regulations.

at the end, if the receiver of email has to also keep it safe. Do they?

This. I would have loved if this original u2f existed. Google has even removed this from their accounts.

do the meta employees that code these stuff also get tracked?

Agree... There should be some penalty to sites that want to show off their reports only to people with high end devices...

they do. You do lose 2FA with shattered screen.

Android phone can be used without google account (I do it). You cant even use Apple iPhone without.

Have you tried configuring secure boot - with - every single protection on Ubuntu /any distro?

Just google: Mathew Garrett On The State Of Boot Security implement everything and comeback.

Maybe slate with android? If you disable android in ChromeOS it a dream to use. Everything just works.

And remember normal people (i.e outside USA) already have Android phone. They just login and use. All passkeys etc. synced and running. All these are a pain in fedora etc.

No. They have more in common. I would assume this is an internal joint project.

Often people get emotional and try to baby sit (new and users that don't want to learn basics). Having a disjoint but strict, timely, disinterested connection with support forums is great. One of the great examples is coreboot or MrChromebox. He replies only when necessary.

Wait few hours. Some CTO or PR guru will post a message here.

- We are totally revamping our processes. This never happened out of incompetence. Humans make mistakes. We are contacting the client for 1 year free renewal - waiving. Will mail a coupon code. We consider this issue closed.

Those working in Google (AOSP) that write these code should be ashamed of themselves. Eventually they are doing a bad thing for the society.

Then ask all the billionares or people like you to give jobs/salaries/allowances/holidays at SV level to everyone in the world. Lets all build yachts. I am happy to get that level of pay.

Once you do illegal then that is a different issue.

Even if your company does such stuff... the number of cameras per street is far fewer then one sees in the UK or USA.

The logic of putting roof over the head is a point that is too broadly used is not at all valid for things like tailscale as... eventually most businesses at that level (tailscale revenue in 2025 was $45.2M) are crushing the customers. Either entshittification or lock-in. There is a loss of trust. The trust on SV/software is as much as bankers (during Lehmann bros crisis). Some people in HN think oh, we are growing small farmers/engineers from grassroots etc Yes, maybe - but their thinking is to exploit customers sooner or later. These smaller ones (as compared to FAANG etc) think that common man thinks that FAANG are the exploitative ones. But no. The public is getting aware that every damn calendar app or pdf viewer or router is increasing prices or wants subscription or planned obsolescence.

A roof over the head is OK but the price increases are usually to put private Yachts. The income earned by majority of these founders is already good to have lots of roofs.

Maybe my local corner coffee shop is one fellow I would not mind having subscription with...