matthiasb
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www.li10.com: make cloud sustainable
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Comment · 1 year ago
There are a couple points that resonate with me. I strongly believe there is a need to provide transparency and accountability to cloud engineers. How many cloud enginners know the exact list of resources they own in all accounts and regions they have access to? How much money do cloud provider make out abandonned, zombie, long-forgotten resources?
What they built sound nice and feature-rich but also quite complex. I just finished adding a (simplier) feature to the SaaS I am building. It generates individual reports with the list of resources owned by the user, the associated cost and flag for thise which are likely unused.
I will post of Show HN soon, but if you are interested in cloud efficiency, I would love you feedback! https://li10.com
Comment · 2 years ago
It looks interesting. Is the Basti EC2 instance deployed in a private subnet? Do you have a high-level diagram?
Comment · 2 years ago
I am working on eliminating waste in cloud resources.
Cloud providers made too easy to start resources. But unless there is a stringent upfront process (that usually defeats the purpose of using the cloud), it is hard to keep track of who owns what, and what is still needed. Decrypting long cloud bills quickly impossible, and users do not have a clear understanding of the per-resource cost they generated.
I believe the solution is rooted in transparency and accountability for both users and cloud providers.
I am creating a tool what generates a cost and security cloud report which is sent weekly for each cloud user or team.
I intend to release it as a open-source tool as well a SaaS service as part of www.li10.com
Comment · 2 years ago
I am working on a cloud governance and remediation solution.
Our first product was a CO2 monitor for your AWS infrastructure https://www.li10.com/
The next logical step is to provide tools to reduce it (along with cost reduction and security benefits)
Our first iteration is available here: https://github.com/li10labs/li10-governance
Comment · 2 years ago
yes, but it will give you a misleading number (close to 0 for any workload you run in US or EU). So it is useless.
Comment · 2 years ago
I totally agree with you!
There are so many layers we could optimize, with various level of difficulty and return in term of cost and co2 reduction.
Legacy tech stack are especially wasteful: HW + OS + App running 24/7 regardless if it used or not.
My intuition is that AWS claims they can reduce CO2 emissions from your onprem stack by 80% because *IF* it was rewritten into a serverless app, it would consume energy only when it runs.
That's one big if! https://aws.amazon.com/de/blogs/mt/how-to-drive-the-discussi....
Comment · 2 years ago
Shameless plug: we built www.li10.com to help companies using AWS cloud measuring and reducing their cloud carbon footprint.
To measure it, we use your detailed billing data and local kWh carbon intensity.
To reduce it, we are offering a cloud governance tool based on Cloud Custodian to identify and remediate wasteful or/and unsecure cloud resources.
Comment · 3 years ago
Hi there! I'm Matt. Leader in cloud technologies, with a 17-year track record in both the US and EU. As a Senior Director of Cloud Solution Architecture at NTT DATA, I lead the development of AWS serverless, SaaS, big data, and ML applications. I also coach our cloud engineering talent pool.
Back in the Flux7 days, an AWS consulting startup I called home, we pulled off a solid 50% YoY growth, paving the way for an acquisition by NTT DATA. It was quite an adventure, demanding a blend of technical skills and business acumen.
Dedicated to fostering sustainable IT practices, I built https://www.li10.com, a SaaS helping cloud engineers lighten their cloud environmental footprint.
Location: Germany
Remote: Yes, worked remotely for US customers for 6 years
Willing to relocate: No
Technologies: AWS, serverless, CI/CD, Python/Node/Typescript, MongoDB, Docker, LLM
Resume: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattbuchner/
Email: [email protected]Comment · 3 years ago
Most cloud providers already claim being carbon neutral for EU and US regions. Unfortunately, there is a lot of waste there too, so there goes the little bit of green energy we have.
Comment · 3 years ago
What you are saying makes sense. If you are running other valuable apps, then it isn't a waste.
I am curious though, how did you come to 1.75kg per user? I calculated 20.9kg / user / year.
250/1000/1000 kgCO₂eq/Wh x 19.1 Wh x 8760 hours in a year / 2 users = 20.9 kg / user / year
Comment · 3 years ago
Turning a service on/off makes a lot of sense for this kind of application.
I sincerely didn't post my comment to shame anymore.
Need for computing is growing fast and it is actually not negligible at all. See the link below, data centers emitted 300 MTCo2 in 2020, similar to the number you mentioned.
https://www.iea.org/reports/data-centres-and-data-transmissi...
Comment · 3 years ago
An idle server still consumes energy. Energy consumption increases with CPU load, RAM consumes the same regardless of the usage.
When Google manages your pictures, they don't have idle servers for each users. This is the main reason their service is more sustainable.
Comment · 3 years ago
Where did you get the carbon you exhale? Food. If you go by that logic, you might as well stop eating.
The CO2 we exhale does not contribute to climate change because it comes from plants (and indirectly animals) that captures it back.
If you burn coal to produce electricity, it releases CO2 in the atmosphere and it will take a long time to sequester that CO2 back into fossil fuel.