m_coder
Joined 12 years ago
Joined 12 years ago
Does anyone have a help for the opposite scenario? In this scenario I have not yet bid but the price is quite low and I don't want to bid in case I missed something. The price stays very low and the item is sold. I am left kicking myself for not sticking my neck out there and making a good deal. Maybe I should bid once and see if I like it. The problem is that one bid might get it...
>>The Chairman thought Dr Calhoun had not mentioned pollution and asked what remains the animals left and how these affected the situation?
>>Dr Calhoun said that they (the investigators) were not very sanitary in their husbandry, if that was the kind of pollution inferred. The environment was cleaned, most fices and soiled bedding removed, every six weeks or two months, but nothing was ever sterilized. He did not consider this necessary in such a closed system and the mice had better survival than in most laboratory colonies. Dead bodies were eventually removed for examinations, but the major pollution was the excess of living bodies; this was the essential factor. The pollution was social in that there were too many interacting elements, exceeding the social system's capacity for incorporation of new individuals. Capacities were genetically determined and situation- ally modified.
>>The Chairman thought the point had been made very clearly, but there must be a pollution factor. There were the remains, frces, urine and dead bodies. Those must surely be a factor.
>>Dr Calhoun thought these were minor factors. They needed to maintain a situation in which there was not continuous waste accumulation, but beyond that the environment mirrored certain normal, external ecological settings.
I thought that they got sloppy with cleaning and I don't see that my hunch was incorrect. In my opinion, that much poop and dead bodies will stress a mouse colony out and I would like to replicate this experiment myself and see what happens when you keep the colony super clean as it ought to be.
It seems to me that people think that if the first farm is more efficient in converting labor, dollars and cheap fuel into food than the second farm, then the first is the most efficient farm across all categories including land use. When one of the pieces changes (for instance fuel costs) then the formula needs to be revisited.
Realizing that personal, scientific and careful management of land yields more food per acre without agri chemical products is an important first step to thinking about the picture even if the low cost of fuel is a current reality.
"Dacha gardening accounts for about 3% of the arable land used in agriculture, but grows an astounding 50% by value of the food eaten by Russians." (from https://smallfarmersjournal.com/russian-dacha-gardens)
And then they fix that one situation and go on about their normal business. At least that is what it seems to me. I would wish for something more long term to happen but I am becoming less hopeful.
Please do this!! I want to see that article on CAES actually worked out in real life not just theory with no howto steps .
However, given a sufficient percentage of the population which is interested in doing this, it would be very difficult even for the US military to completely conquer.
Actually, now I own a small pet/animal feed store.