lots2learn

I don't think you understand the word colonizer. The Muslims conquered and lived among the people. They created a civilization which non-Muslim minorities were a part of. This is very different from European colonialism that extracted resources from the lands and people they conquered for the exclusive benefit of the Empire.

This is a false portrayal of the conflict. Israel wants to finish ethnically cleansing the west bank (as they have been doing and continue to do until this day) and want to either keep Gaza as a concentration camp or ethnically cleanse it as well. Palestinians want implementation of international law and UN resolutions which require a return to 67 borders and a right for Palestinian return. There IS a right and wrong side here and portraying the conflict as both sides just wanting to kill each other is obfuscating with the intent of portraying both sides equally at fault and thus the conflict hopelessly unsolvable.

Everything from "..continue to be oppressed" until the end. But again, the main point is how does your example have anything to do with the framing of the current conflict in Palestine and what the Palestinian people are undergoing?

If we can all agree that UN resolutions and international law should allowed to be implemented, that would be a path forward better than what's currently happening.

> Why? Its not relavent to my argument

Your argument is that my statement framing the current conflict in Palestine as "A people were ethnically cleansed from the lands they lived on for centuries and those people continue to be oppressed and subjugated till this day, not only denied to return back to the lands they were expelled from, but continue until now to be forcibly expelled from the small amounts they remain on" applies to either side. I charge that you haven't provided any evidence that it applies to the Jews. You bring an example of Jewish expulsion from other parts of the world after 1948 (which does not fit the full description of the statement anyway) but then admit that it has nothing to do with the Palestinian plight or the current conflict.

What are the "other number of events"? Please be specific. Regarding what happened in various Arab countries in the 40s and 50s (which by the way is after the nakba so the tit-for-tat theory doesn't hold up) what does this have to do with Palestinians being ethnically cleansed? Are you justifying one for the other? It's no different than saying because of the European Holocaust or European antisemitism, the Palestinians deserve to be ethnically cleansed.

It's not complicated at all. The party of this conflict which is the settler-colonizer would like everyone to believe it's complicated but it's quite simple: A people were ethnically cleansed from the lands they lived on for centuries and those people continue to be oppressed and subjugated till this day, not only denied to return back to the lands they were expelled from, but continue until now to be forcibly expelled from the small amounts they remain on.

Hamas started this last flare up only if history begins on Oct 7. In fact, Hamas's action on that day is an inevitable reaction to decades of systemic oppression, unprovoked aggression and ethnic cleansing.

Also worth pointing out there is no evidence of rape other than a statement by the IDF who are notoriously untrustworthy.

Which Jews within Israel were displaced in the conflict? Rather, it was a net gain for the Jews in Israel. People, including Golda Meir the first prime minister, simply moved into existing homes of people who had to flee because of the murderous Zionist mobs and pogroms. Compensating refugees and descendants doesn't solve the problem that they don't have legal status in the land they were born in / driven from. They must be let back to their native land. Israel uses this same logic - although spanning 2k years and reliant on mythology as proof - to let any Jew from anywhere in the world immigrate and gain citizenship in Israel. So if you're committed to being equitable to both sides, why aren't Palestinians given the same right of return to their homeland?

You can sell it by owner and keep the seller's agent commission. In this market, homes sell themselves anyway.