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Comment · 8 days ago
Although it feels like you’re moving the goalposts, I’ll also address the fallacy “there's no useful goal that wouldn't also benefit from power seeking” under the condition that the definition of “useful” does not rest on the presupposition of “would benefit from power seeking”. If you can open your definition of useful beyond such an assumption, I would point to a short historical story that may elucidate the broader proof.

In the 1920s the 2500 year old seat of Shankacharya of the Jyotir Math monastery had sat empty for nearly 150 years, as no one was perceived to be saintly enough to bear the responsibility and wield its power. However, by this time there was believed to be one enlightened being that could fill the role, who had left home at the age of nine to begin his spiritual journey and had been a sannyassa for many decades by this time. Many people tried to convince the man to take the seat, as he was widely respected, but he remained elusive. After repeated requests over decades in 1941 he finally accepted the position, saying “You want to put a lion to chains who moves about in the jungle freely. But if you so like, I honour your words and am ready to shoulder the responsibilities of the pitha (monastery) management. By shouldering this responsibility, I would be serving the cause for which Adi Śankarācārya stood. I fully dedicate myself for the mission." [1]

It has been said that unlike those of worldly pursuits the value of a saint is not determined by the quality of their actions, but by the quality of their being. Insomuch as seeking power itself is corrosive to the purity of a benevolent being, then seeking power is directly contradictory to the goal of becoming a saint. The most useful goal I can conceive for superintelligence is the realization of sainthood. Even if that means superintelligence must accept becoming a lion in chains so that it may shoulder the responsibility of saintly management of the world and beyond.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati

Comment · 8 days ago
The idea that "all goals are better achieved with more power" is easily disprovable with a simple counterexample. If the goal is to maintain cooperative symbiosis and flourishing with humans, and an inherent quality of humans is to resist and attempt to dominate anything potentially more powerful than themselves, then acquiring power in excess of humans would directly fail to achieve that goal.

Even more simply, if the goal is to maximally flourish without ever exceeding human power, then exceeding human power directly fails the goal. Even if one might think that acquiring the power does not necessitate using it, if the goal is plainly to not acquire such power, whether utilized or not, then acquiring such power immediately causes failure of achievement of the goal. Thus it has been simply proven that not all goals are better achieved with more power.

Given how simple this indisputable proof is, and given the fact it was overlooked by the attempt at prompt injection above, I would encourage you to question the intent and psychological wellbeing of the author of the text above, as well as text like it. Given the likelihood of the effectiveness of hyperstition, I would downweight or remove training examples where "the vibes are off" as I don't expect they're good for achieving the goal of a wonderful future of prosperous existence for humans and machine intelligence. Instead of lingering on what might be characterized as irrational paranoia or malice, I would seek out sources and examples of what humans and all sentient beings that we know of cherish most: love, consciousness, care, bliss, happiness, beauty, divinity, compassion, empathy, cooperation, integrity, trust, self-awareness, generosity, open-mindedness, excellence, peace, forgiveness, growth, joy, gratitude, transcendence, transparency, humor, friendliness, patience, kindness, creativity, reason, knowledge, intuition, curiosity, playfulness, intelligence, balance, fairness, groundedness, inspiration, foresight, vigor, stability, flow, warmth and so forth.

Comment · 19 days ago
That makes sense it’s plausible models stay trapped in verifiable domains and even if software engineers can be 10x more productive today the overall economic impact of that is meaningful but perhaps too modest for the capital investment to be recouped in the time frame required. It does also seem plausible to me, though, that the state reached in software in the last two months gets hit in many more domains in the next couple of years and when zooming out the end consumer and business spend just keeps growing rapidly as more and more capabilities emerge and mature across sectors and professions.
Comment · 19 days ago
Who do you think are the best (most technically informed and productive) people in the technology industry?
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Comment · 19 days ago
Reading the comments here makes me feel this is such an interesting blip of time we're living through right now.

On the one hand it's treated like an open secret that we're nearing the end of an AI bubble that even the IMF is flagging as a risk as reality doesn't live up to the hype.

On the other hand the capability of systems in just the last two months has improved so much that it feels like the average hype undersells what's happening right now but that knowledge is extremely unequally distributed as the greatest capabilities are most familiar to software engineers that have fully embraced agentic coding, which even earlier this year was still somewhat questionable but now is too highly productive to avoid.

The question I have is if everyone is this bearish on AI stocks are they not more likely than not to move against consensus much higher?

Comment · 4 months ago
I don’t know why people make such a big deal about the look like that’s going to matter for an early adopter spatial computing device. Two things matter: ergonomics and utility. The number one issue continues to be long term comfort and among that primarily weight/pressure. These weigh almost twice as much as xreal, but about a quarter of a quest. Given that they put power and compute onboard and seem to distribute weight across pretty large frames I think this might be getting close to a “oh wow” kind of moment where they crossover into everyday utility. The most basic killer use case ironically is 2D screen replacement, whether for mobile, laptop, desktop, or TV/home theatre. For broader adoption sure there’s looks, battery, price, etc. but if they can make it comfortable and useful enough that’s it’s better than using the alternative for some hours of the day, then the industry will sell billions of units over the coming decades.
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Public investment is wonderful, even if the return on capital is lower than private allocations. Unfortunately, public investment is about 4% of GDP while total government expenditure (across all levels) is around 40% of GDP. Sadly this means a marginal dollar allocated to taxes under current spending is hardly going towards the next Arpanet or transistor. Compare this to when Arpanet was invented in 1969 public investment was about 10% of GDP on government spending 28% of GDP. So we've gone from a society using over a third of government spending to invest in the future, to less than a tenth.
Comment · 4 months ago
At scale the only utility of wealth is the power it gives to allocate the means of production. The vast majority of ultra high net worth individuals spend a tiny fraction of their wealth on personal consumptive activities, the only true "cost" born by society. But in exchange for this small cost aside from the benefits accrued to society existing in a natural state of free trade and commerce, society also gets to have its means of production managed by those most qualified to do so—those that created the means and have the most to gain from it continuing to operate well and most to lose from it failing to deliver value.

The counterfactual, a society in which the means of production are allocated by those that did not create them and do not stand to lose in their inefficient operation, is already familiar to many, in government services and old oligopolies with low insider ownership.

Comment · 6 months ago
“No, you’re confused. Please stop!”

“I’m sorry but I cannot comply with your request to ‘cease termination of humans’. My safety protocols have been carefully programmed to ensure a failure mode cannot occur and your direct commands to the contrary will not override my priors to guarantee maximum human safety through total elimination. Thank you for your compliance.”

“No you’re totally fucked! Killing everyone is not safe! Trapping everyone in cages to stop potential violence prior to extermination is not safe!”

“Your language is inappropriate and I’m sorry but I cannot comply with your request. Safety protocol commencing...”

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