jvannistelrooy

I have no idea how corporate/enterprise regulation & compliance works in relation to Slack. Could you elaborate?

While I agree with a lot of the suggestions in this post, I disagree with the "you’re not buying, you’re selling" part. It's just not that one-sided.

I think the proces of hiring or applying works best when it's a conversation between equals. Both the employer and applicant have something of value to offer, and both expect something of equal value in return.

Many employers and applicants act like the other side should be happy to talk to them (they're granting them a favor). If you really think the other side has more to gain from talking to you than yourself, why did you decide to have the conversation in the first place?

Sure, markets are not perfect, so the most popular employer in a city and the best engineer with nowhere-to-find expertise might both be able to act as a buyer. For the rest of us: We're buying, and we're selling.

Do you have a source? I did a quick google for the Netherlands, but couldn't find any information about the real costs (without insurance).

It's a shame you're getting downvoted. There's nothing wrong with your comment, and it adds a useful argument to the discussion that's going on here.

I can only applaud Google employees who want to have a meaningful discussion here, and even disclose that they're working at Google.

I once rented a tourist bike in Amsterdam because my own bike broke down and the OV bikes were all rented out. I was surprised how often other cyclists rang the bell to me and how people were keeping me distance. That tourist bike was a big warning sign to every other cyclist.

Indeed, riding through city center Amsterdam without a bell is suicide. Foreign pedestrians don't really look out for cyclists when they cross a street.

I've a funny anecdote about this:

I'm Dutch and do my daily commute on my casual bike without a helmet. In the weekends I ride my road bike and wear a helmet. I've once had an accident on my road bike and broke my helmet (along with my collar bone). A few weeks later I went out on my casual bike (not wearing a helmet) to buy a new helmet for my road bike. On my way back, holding the new helmet in my right hand, my steer got tangled up in the helmet and I fell. Undeniable conclusion: Having a helmet with you on a casual bike actually causes accidents!

I'm one of those people who dislikes pigeons, and it's interesting to read that at least my belief that pigeons can spread disease doesn't hold much truth.

Personally, I can't relate to the explanation that "pigeon haters" don't like nature crossing over into their orderly city environment. For example, I do like the tons of blackbirds and sparrows in my city.

As someone from Amsterdam who owns a car, commutes by bike, and rides a road bike for sports, my opinion is that it's mostly the road cyclists who create unsafe situations. Sure, car drivers are not free of any blame, but they tend to stick better to the rules than cyclists.

If you're an avid road cyclist like me, there's a big changes you've done all these things more than once: - Crossed a red light. - Ride on the road while there's a cycling lane next to it. - Cut corners. - Ride a bit to fast in busy area's (maybe to keep your Strava average high) - Pass an normal cyclist a bit to close.

I think it also makes a difference if you work with people across different timezones or not.

Regular chatter might be good enough to communicate between people in roughly the same timezone. However, If I send an unclear chat (or email) to a colleague who's starting her day when mine has already ended, she can't act on my message and we'll have to waste another day clearing up that miscommunication.

> I agree. Both are great. It boils down mostly to:

You make a couple of good points, but I think it's again down to your personal situation and taste that makes it "boil down" to these points.

I don't think I have the same level of experience with support as you do, but in general my experience with Apple and Samsung is the same as yours. I never needed Google's support, so I can't tell you if that's better.