john_alan

well not specifically, but directionally could mean less adherence to a UNIX like environment.

yeah I guess there isn't really much to move to... a new custom Kernel and Userspace? extremely unlikely - I guess it's here to stay, despite not being formally Unix.

Sure, I just hope macOS doesn't end up doing some custom thing rather than staying Unix/Linux like, which we've had with macOS/OS X till now.

Yep linked page is active certification rather than historical.

That’s historical. The linked page is active. Zzz

27 wasn’t certified and 26 was listed but is now removed.

Indeed.

I just wonder if macOS will stop being UNIX like.

That is, whilst it still has home brew and a BSD core it’s great. If that goes away it’s no longer a viable alternative to Linux.

macOS was listed on the main register (the link in this submission).

It was Tahoe, it’s since been removed.

The UNIX03 page still lists it, but I believe that’s a mistake.

macOS has been removed from the main register/list.

They do, it’s called Nano-texture.

> I don't understand the purpose of your reply?

to illustrate, counter to the HN narrative, they've actually done a lot to keep the platform open to hackers and hobbyists.

Sure, remove disabling SIP from the list, the others still stand and are quite compelling IMO.

Fair enough on the kernel extensions.

I take your point(s) but the doom about the Mac turning into iOS and the terminal being taken away is unfounded.

What about all the stuff they've done to keep it open:

- Per-install boot security policies

- Custom kernel boot (kmutil configure-boot)

- Raw-image boot mode

- XNU source releases

- Disabling SIP

- Disabling the Signed System Volume

- Third-party kernel extensions

- Developer ID distribution and notarisation

- Gatekeeper "Open Anyway" override

- Hypervisor.framework

- Virtualization.framework

- Rosetta for Linux VMs

- Nested virtualisation

- macOS guest provisioning

- DiskImageKit

- Custom Virtio devices

- Containerization framework

I don't think that's fair, they've spent a lot of time and effort ensuring the Mac is still an open/UNIX like platform, including (where they didn't have to):

- Per-install boot security policies

- Custom kernel boot (kmutil configure-boot)

- Raw-image boot mode

- XNU source releases

- Disabling SIP

- Disabling the Signed System Volume

- Third-party kernel extensions

- Developer ID distribution and notarisation

- Gatekeeper "Open Anyway" override

- Hypervisor.framework

- Virtualization.framework

- Rosetta for Linux VMs

- Nested virtualisation

- macOS guest provisioning

- DiskImageKit

- Custom Virtio devices

- Containerization framework

Have you ever tried to do serious work on a tablet?

Absolutely sales of laptops would continue.