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Here in Germany, the Pirate Party has discussed the topic at length, since they (1) love voting innovations, and (2) have generally good knowledge on CS stuff, and so far I think no real solution is known for anonymous, confidential, secure digital voting with verifiable results, which is easy to reach with paper ballots and public observers of the counting.
How do you reduce your consumption of addictive stuff, in the easiest way? You quit, full stop.
It is the same as if you want to quit smoking, or as if you realize that you are drinking four cans of beer each summer evening and realize this is not good for you. It is far easier to quit, and decide what to do instead, than to "reduce".
Very similar to the "EU settlement scheme" which would gave EU citizens which had work and settled in the UK pre-Brexit after a very lengthy and non-deterministic application process the right to stay without any paper document to prove that they actually got that right. Just a database entry on a government computer. Too bad if an extreme right-wing goverment came to power and something happened to that database.
A digital ID requires essentially a digital signature running on a secure device (for example, a smart card).
Thus it implements public key cryptocraphy. Which makes confidentiality and integrity of computing two inseparable sides of the same medal.
You simply cannot break confidentiality of communication without practically breaking integrity of digital signatures at the same time. (Otherwise, a user, for example could generate a fresh random public key, sign it with their digital id, and send it to any communications partner).
Breaking this in turn means that the government can sign on behalf of you, without your knowledge.
Human communication is based on symbols and whatever the means are to transport these symbols, cannot work without trust.
That is often a variant of Hanlor's razor brought up on questions like this. How do certain actors turn reliably to a course of action that is so damaging - but to any expert or even rational mind seems stupid! That can't be what they want?!
I do not think that this reasoning holds.
Hannah Arendt, when writing about totalitarism, came to the conclusion that there is a kind of complicity between evil and thoughtlessness. (I am still trying to find her exact words on this.)
Consider how much space you do need ahead for safe travel as a pedestrian, on a bicycle, on an interstate highway in a car, or on a plane taking off at an airport, and you have the answer.
Cars already require a ridiculous amount of space for safety. I live in Germany and there are cities with 200,000 inhabitants that are smaller in area than a single highway intersection.
That's not how boundaries work.
I guess that some people confound the source of information with its medium. A book might contain Newtons equation of motion, Gauss' works, Maxwell's equations, or an introduction of Einstein's theory of special relativity. But it is not the book that is intelligent, it is the people that wrote up the ideas.
You can see that confusion between the medium and authority by the holy scriptures of the large religions which were among the first human organizations that employed written words for their purposes - for example, muslim and Jewish people treat their respective foundational books as holy themselves.
With LLMs, it is clear that when you average the writing of many more or less intelligent people, the result might appear more or less intelligent. In the same way as common sense, sometimes, does make sense. But it is still not the medium that is intelligent, but the authors of the input.
But what the blog author is probably right about is persuasion by influencing communities which in turn influence individuals. That is exactly how Googles or Facebooks practices that violate privacy - like offering free emails accounts which use data from personal mails for advertising - became widely accepted even if it is clear they are not good for individuals.
I think that dimension of persuasion might be often overlooked when people, for example, think about the Cambridge Analytica scandal:
https://longform.org/posts/the-great-british-brexit-robbery
https://www.europeanpressprize.com/article/great-british-bre...
https://ia601000.us.archive.org/28/items/civ53332855/great-b...
Personally, I avoid phone use even as a pedestrian in busy city spaces - I think the time it takes to fully switch attention to be fully aware of things like a reckless driver running a red light is too long to not affect safety.
Humans communicate using symbols. That could be patterns of sound waves, gestures, or written characters.
If we can't trust that the communicated symbols match their agreed meaning, what is the use of them? Communication breaks down quickly, and being social individuals which inter-depend on others, we can't live without communication. Nobody likes a liar, and the reason is, the words they give us do not match what they mean. (Perhaps not only humans. I read that dolphins readily come and rescue individuals which are drowning - including humans - but they punish individuals which fake drowning.)
And that goes from every stratum of social interaction, from big treaties to selling a bagel. Would you sell a bagel for a fake dollar bill? The number on it is a symbol as well, it has a meaning.
So it is right down one of the very bases of human cooperation.