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I seriously don't want to engage with whataboutry, but I'm going to reply to you with the tiniest hope that you might be willing to listen to reason.

So first, i agree with you that power structures have always taken advantage of their position to shutdown their opposition.

The reason that this has become significant enough in India for someone to take note and take action, is because of the blatant and frequent application of authority in this manner and that too targeted towards a specific community. The scale is enormous and is not showing any signs of decreasing.

> Illegal construction, encroachment on public land will sometimes get this response.

Illegal construction is rampant in india. Please contextualize the act of bulldozing with the riots that happened. Let's not be blind to the clear use of power and authority to specifically root out people of a certain cast.

The level of politics being played out in India is nearing to the intellect of a badly scripted bollywood movie and people are turning the other way or even worse making excuses for it.

There is a difference between a law in paper and its enactment. There are various laws in the constitution of india that can be conveniently represented to prosecute someone on the basis of their speech. There is significant evidence of such happenings only increasing lately

In my first company i quickly established myself as a good programmer. As a result i was awarded with a tough project on a tough client. What i came across in the code base astounded me. It was a java based code base with everything happening in the constructor of a class. A 3000 line long constructor. I didn't stay with the company for long after that.

My conjecture is that any new form of GI will continue to evolve from an existing branch of sentient organisms. Artificial influence to evolution could be made possible by augmenting a current GI with AI, but i'm unable to comprehend a GI built entirely from scratch.

My argument for this line of reasoning is that the secret sauce of motivation or purpose that is deep down in every "dna" has neither been discovered nor replicable.

This is not a religious but a philosophical assertion.

Hi mkaic, Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I can't say that i don't believe in AGI because i don't think i understand what AGI as an entity encapsulates in terms of it's nature.

I'm unable to cope with equating it to humans because, for example, an AGI at "the beginning of it's origins" does not have same sensory or mechanical organs as the man. So what nature do we think it does possess?

Another question that bothers me is that sentient beings as we know them in the nature, even the most primitive ones, seem to do something based on an innate purpose. I don't think the purpose itself is easy to define. But it certainly seems to get simpler for the simpler organisations and seems to be survival / multiplication at its basest level. What will a complicated entity, that originated with so many parameters, evolve "towards"?

And yet another question i have is around the whole idea of the information available on the internet being a source for learning for this entity. Again to my previous point, is not much of this information to do with the humans and their abode?

Neither am i skeptical nor do i disbelieve in a drastic change of scene. I'm simply unable to imagine what it looks like ...

Ah thanks for clarifying. That does make sense.

Trains fares are very low in India. For example you can travel by a sleeper coach from Hyderabad to Chennai (628km) for just $5.38. Unfortunately the low cost reflects in the poor quality of service.

Some of the best preserved literature is religious text. Give humans incentive (evidently faith is a strong contender here) to remember something to the T and it could easily survive all those 500 years and more.

I'm not sure how i feel about the title. But i loved the talk.

That's great. Thank you for going ahead with that. I'll try to add some more relevant details with citations over the weekend or atleast put it here. Do you think if we start a new thread, it will gain more traction? Just a thought.

An entry in wiki would not just be a recognition of his achievements but also a source for further reach out for his ideas.

As an aside - Is Rich Hickey still not notable enough to have a wikipedia entry? Even the person who has shepherded on this paper has a wiki page.