iancackett

Good point. I think most Java projects use only about 2% of Spring!

There is certainly a place for "a little coding", as you put it. I used to work in an investment bank where traders would write their own Excel macros to perform duties it would've taken months for them to get IT to implement. But building most production-worthy software is not what "learning to code" is about. I guess I'm just trying to re-draw the line. Wouldn't want to stop anyone coding :-)

I kind of agree that there is a place for coding without becoming a developer, but what these recent "code schools" seem to be doing is trivialising software development itself. I certainly wouldn't want to stop anyone dabbling in coding, singing, learning a language, etc... but we wouldn't want to confuse that with taking any of those pursuits to a professional level, which is something else entirely, and not quite so "easy".

Thanks for the share, rubikscube. Much appreciated!

Wow... this hit Hacker News a second time! I agree, perhaps we should be pushing more in the direction of engineering... at least for certain kinds of project / product. At startups, there's definitely a push in the opposite direction; towards Agile, less formality, etc. I suspect the two approaches to continue diverging.