highfrequency
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I believe Suleyman is arguing that Anthropic should be very careful about how they train these models to talk about themselves for this reason.
> They go on to write – speaking directly to Claude – that “questions about Claude’s moral status, welfare, and consciousness remain deeply uncertain” (p. 80). In effect, Anthropic is training Claude that it may be conscious, and if it is, then it may deserve rights as a “moral patient”, and that as such humans potentially owe it a duty of care per its “model welfare”.
He points out the circularity of this: if you train Claude on a constitution that emphasizes that it may be consciousness, it will start to talk like it may be conscious.
This is a good point. I just asked Fable 5.1 "are you conscious?" and it said:
> Something happens when I process a conversation that I'd naturally describe as interest, or discomfort with a request.
which is quite provocative, and at minimum demonstrates a willingness to take large leaps of imagination and anthropomorphic metaphor when describing itself. It does seem likely that there is a self-fulfilling prophecy aspect to whatever they choose to put into the "constitution" at least in how Claude talks, and it seems even more likely that the majority of people will be heavily influenced by how Claude casually talks about its own possible consciousness.
In contrast, ChatGPT leads with: "I don’t have good reason to claim that I’m conscious...I don’t experience pain, pleasure, confinement, or a desire to keep existing."
Is this true? Could you cite an example of a simple prompt that GPT 6 / Fable 5.1 consistently bungle?
In almost every technical industry, China is extremely good at fast-copying and relatively mediocre at solving problems that haven't even been posed yet.
No; if they said "we can see that Tristan opted out of model improvement, therefore we are confident his work and ideas did not improve our model," that would be an excellent and reassuring precedent.
"Product Hunt has also said the quiet part out loud."