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I'm pretty sure Hinton and Bengio get a lot of news coverage and are heavily over-credited for saying these things, unlike LeCun, Ng, Sutton, or Schmidhuber.

In fact, their core ideology actually stemmed from Yudkowsky's arguments.

Are you against open-source models?

Data and content related to "biological weapons" already exist on the internet, in books, etc. The real issue is access to facilities and tools. There are models that help researchers, but they are not LLMs, rather they are models trained specifically on biological data (like AlphaFold).

Cybersecurity is basically used like a dog whistle pioneered by Anthropic to achieve regulatory capture. Otherwise, the widespread availability of good tooling for security analysis would eliminate more of these cyber threats, rather than gatekeeping them for a few private companies.

They have already released their models (GLM 5.2 and K3). This is why Amodei and the rest of the effective altruist lobbies are trying to pressure the US government to both ban open-source models and pressure China to do the same.

I’m curious to see why you’re so eager to ban open-source LLMs while being okay with Anthropic’s control. Do you think they’ll rebel against you?

I found Mimo 2.5 Pro to be the right balance between cost and intelligence. It costs the same as DeepSeek v4 Pro, but it's better overall by a small margin.

They are likely Effective Altruists highly attuned to AGI (With current LLM's) risks, fearing an LLM uprising and human extinction, which they regard as the world's most critical challenge.

It's sad that he is the only one speaking out about Hinton. This whole Hinton glorification seems like it's being pushed by an agenda. I'm not sure if he would receive this much attention if he held a different view (closer to LeCun or Ng), rather than these Effective Altruism takes on current AI.

Hinton did not invent backpropagation.

related paragraph from Wikipedia:

Modern backpropagation was first published by Seppo Linnainmaa as "reverse mode of automatic differentiation" (1970)[26] for discrete connected networks of nested differentiable functions.[27][28][29]

In 1982, Paul Werbos applied backpropagation to MLPs in the way that has become standard.

They are useless and outdated by today standards.

From what I’ve seen, the opposite is often true. Western leftist mainstream media frequently portrays Japan as a racist and declining society.

Meanwhile, on platforms like YouTube and communities such as Hacker News, the bias is even much stronger. China, along with the broader “Axis of Resistance” and third worldist camp (though China arguably doesn’t fully belong there), is often praised, while the West, including Japan, receives disproportionate criticism.