guzey

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Comment · 3 years ago
Consider reading the last section of the post.
Comment · 3 years ago
Consider actually reading the post before commenting next time. I didn't do an "180" switch. I wrote:

>1. There’s no good medical reason to sleep more than the minimum you can sustain.

>Not this one! Fight me.

Comment · 4 years ago
No, you are. You specifically wrote that I "equate" (3) and (4) to my conclusion. You wrote:

>probably also wouldn't equate "a person with an ADRB1 mutation can sleep less" and "a single individual that underwent brain surgery can sleep less" with "Decreasing sleep by 1-2 hours a night in the long-term has no negative health effects".

Comment · 4 years ago
> How does your essay explain that I feel horrible for 2-3 hours after waking up if I don't get enough sleep?

So, you are saying that when you don't get enough sleep, you feel fine most of the day, except for the first 2-3 hours after waking up? This is pretty weird and I don't have a good explanation for you.

Comment · 4 years ago
Are you seriously arguing that sleeping out in the nature, potentially with dangerous animals around you, on bear skins, with several friends (on the same bear skin?) is as comfortable as sleeping on a modern mattress in your home?
Comment · 4 years ago
>Yes, please, do continue to slam a whole field that you are not yourself in. Love hearing from people who love to just cherry pick a couple of articles to support their claims. eye roll

I wholeheartedly agree. Similarly, people outside of astrology shouldn't be criticizing astrology.

Comment · 4 years ago
Is drinking modern water a superstimulus like modern junk food from my analogy is?
Comment · 4 years ago
So what you are saying is that, just like me, in your 20s you were optimize for getting shit done and now, being older, you optimize for feeling good and don't care about doing as much and think that optimizing for doing earlier was a mistake for you. This is reasonable!
Comment · 4 years ago
>I probably also wouldn't equate "a person with an ADRB1 mutation can sleep less" and "a single individual that underwent brain surgery can sleep less" with "Decreasing sleep by 1-2 hours a night in the long-term has no negative health effects".

I made 5 points in that section (https://guzey.com/theses-on-sleep/#decreasing-sleep-by-1-2-h...):

> 1. A sleep researcher who trains sailors to sleep efficiently in order to maximize their race performance believes that 4.5-5.5 hours of sleep is fine.

> 2. 70% of 84 hunter-gatherers studied in 2013 slept less than 7 hours per day, with 46% sleeping less than 6 hours.

> 3. A single-point mutation can decrease the amount of required sleep by 2 hours, with no negative side-effects.

> 4. A brain surgery can decrease the amount of sleep required by 3 hours, with no negative-side effects.

> 5. Sleep is not required for memory consolidation.

You cited (3) and (4) but ignored (1), (2), and (5) all of which are based on studying dozens and hundreds of people.

Comment · 4 years ago
Yep, and here's conclusion of this argument:

>Now, what if the only sleep available to you was modern sleep?

> 1. If you don’t sleep at all, you go crazy, because some amount of sleep is necessary.

> 2. If you sleep just enough to be awake during the day, you’ll be dreaming of getting a nap at the sight of a bed and will be distracted and sleepy all the time. Importantly, I claim, in this situation, the feeling of sleepiness does not mean that you should sleep more – it’s your brain being overpowered by a superstimulus while being bored.

3. I claim that if you sleep as much as you want, you’ll probably sleep too much and become more susceptible to depression. [by analogy to eating too much]

- And if you sleep way too much at once, you’ll be feeling terrible afterwards, however pleasant the sleep was.

Comment · 4 years ago
For the readers, here's my actual argument (https://guzey.com/theses-on-sleep/#comfortable-modern-sleep-...):

>1. Experiencing hunger is normal and does not necessarily imply that you are not eating enough. Never being hungry means you are probably eating too much.

>2. Experiencing sleepiness is normal and does not necessarily imply that you are undersleeping. Never being sleepy means you are probably sleeping too much.

Comment · 4 years ago
I'm curious - what do you believe I should've done? How do you discredit a p-hacked small-n experiment, aside from noting that it should not be trusted a priori due to the extreme bias of the results expected from such kind of studies?
Comment · 4 years ago

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