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I'm not a fan of Google just announcing benchmarks for models which won't get into public hands for eternity. It's kinda useless.

If all you want to prove is your internal models deserve a seat at the big boy table, maybe OpenAI and Anthropic should also release benchmarks for GPT 11 and Opus 9, launching in 2030.

Looks pretty good!

Openrouter raised their last round in May at a ~$1.3B valuation and just 82 days later Stripe has announced that it will be acquiring Openrouter for $7B+. We've been seeing astronomical growth for AI companies, so I am now a bit used to seeing incredible growth in valuations over a very short period of time (we have multi trillion dollar companies that didn't exist 4-5 years ago so... ). But even in this insane growth environment I couldn't wrap my head around this 5-6x growth in 82 days and so want to know what the HN community thinks I am missing.

I beg you DeepSeek just name it 4.1, you are not going to run out of numbers. While we're at it why don't you also append the git commit hash to the name as well

Step aside Codex Micro!

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This is crazy! So OpenAI's models escaped containment and hacked into Hugging Face. And ironically Hugging Face had to rely on GLM 5.2 as they could not defend with frontier models (I presume OpenAI or Anthropic) because they were locked out due to their security guardrails. Tragically hilarious.

I do agree that Chinese open-source models are going to play a bigger and bigger role in the entire ecosystem moving forward, but I don't agree with you in the sense that they are going to eventually "win."

Just because they are cheapp doesn't mean they automatically win. You've picked a lot of great examples, but there is still a little bit of cherry-picking.

One clear outlier is the iPhone, which coexists with Android globally. Even though the iPhone is the leader in the US, and globally Android has the majority of the smartphone market share, they still cater to different price points and different ecosystems, and generally the iPhone has better margins.

i believe American frontier models like from Anthropic and OpenAI are still going to thrive, and coexist with Chinese models. They are just going to cater to different customers and different use cases.