globile
Joined 12 years ago
Joined 12 years ago
"I'm going to quickly shift from my terminal to this chrome tab to check this documentation but while it loads I'll get a dopamine hit from X."
Blur the screen and help me get back on track...
Might as well ignore the whole signal, and more now that anonymous and prepaid are gaining share.
Block every single fraudulent or suspicious transaction, and you're leaving obscene amounts of money on the table.
The amount of credit card fraud that goes unclaimed or is eaten by liability shift is huge, so if Stripe makes a product like Radar ACTUALLY WORK, they would be missing out big time.
I am confident Stripe's radar's shortcomings are deliberate and not simple bugs or design problems.
It appears they have no incentive for the product to be 100% effective and that would explain why Stripe Radar is billed per screened transaction, regardless of outcome.
We benchmark Stripe Radar against other pure play fraud fingerprinting solutions, and the difference is abysmal. The fact that Stripe claims to have seen 80% of any card before it gets to your store make this fact even worse.
So, like parent says, you are going to see radar scores of 90 and 95 for certain charges (clearly fraudulent carding attempts), followed by scores of 15 or 20 for the same card, IP, fingerprint with absolutely no warning.
I've grown tired of escalating this to Support. They just give me the ML model answer. Basically: "It's a black box!"
You can definitely add a rule to start blocking charges from X places, or with Y velocity, or always enforce 3DS, but then you're taking the model into your own hands, and that has some important consequences.
Your acceptance rate goes down. You're heavily interfering with the model and relying (and trusting) it less, and you realise you really don't need Radar to do that for you.
If you're serious about fraud, you must use a pure player solution that is 100% aligned with your interests.
From what we've seen with Stripe Radar in the past, that doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm a big fan of Stripe in may ways, but I really have a love/hate relationship with this side of their business...
Well, the process for support fails.
We handle a decent volume and have been a merchant for over 8 years. We can't even get an account manager to handle specific issues.
90% of requests are met with a subtle RTFM!
If you ask specific questions, these are avoided.
An open ticket is bounced from person to person. No two people seem to touch the same issue.
If you try specific chat support, and you ask technical questions, you'd expect some knowledge. Instead, most agents put you on hold and go over documentation, only to come back and say they've escalated this to a ticket.
Then the ticket comes back with more links to documentation, never answering the question.
The only way to make progress, answers and some human treatment is by jumping from connection to connection on Linkedin, trying to get an intro to someone inside.
Or of course, getting lucky with an HN post.
Took me 7 years to create an account though. Wish I had done it sooner!
Especially ALWAYS reading the comments BEFORE the actual articles! Thanks!
- SCA exemptions - Prepaid Cards (with no built in 2FA support) - Banks in less developed markets (No 3DS) - "We encountered a 3DS processing error" is a common nondescript message which occurs with international payments
For regular merchants, the decrease in conversion (double digit) is VERY far away from any improvements in chargebacks. Bear in mind that most merchants need to stay below 0.75-1% chargeback regardless of conversion/decline ratios.
EDIT: Spelling
Basically, try 3DS (with no authentication), then try regular charge (NON 3DS), then if all else fails try a full 3DS charge. You'd be surprised by the disparity, especially internationally, and we do recoup some charges at the expense of triggering some unintended blockage.
When asking our provider (Stripe in our case) about the best strategy for this, it always comes down to , "Let SCA (Strong Customer Auth) rules and logic handle everything", but this simply doesn't work well.
I really wish the likes of Adyen, Stripe, etc...would help out with better decline ratio strategies.
I think we are all plagued by "do_not_honor" and "transaction_not_allowed" codes that do little to move us in any direction...
[0] https://medium.com/@globile/using-stripe-to-sell-internation...
EDIT: Fixed the order of actions...
Stripe offers Atlas so you can "easily" open a US Stripe account and serve your US customers from there, but wouldn't it be great if Stripe did that for you automatically?
However, I'm sorry to always be the sour grapes guy when it comes to talking about Stripe neglecting us SMEs.
I'm pretty sure a lot of these things mentioned in the article are being passed down to "regular" customers, but to be honest, it lately hasn't felt like that.
Last year there were a few price spikes, Radar fees that were initially negotiated where reinstated, same for refund fees.
Radar works great when it does, but has a lot of wonky stuff like not catching heavy carders which defeats the purpose of using rules.
Acceptance rates internationally are still lacking. If you have a European Stripe account, billing US customers will not provide the same acceptance rates as if you use a US account. In some Latam countries the difference can be important.
Stripe is vital to our growth, but it is a complicated marriage.
I really hope they don't forget about us, the regular merchants.
They now absorb the commission into their pricing. Once you disable your standalone Stripe integration, it disappears and they only way to get it back is to cry to support.
Fast forward 6 years, and it is much harder to unlock a phone than it was then. The whole thing backfired for consumers. It was actually easier to unlock a phone in a "non-legal" way before the law than it was right after.
This whole new code of conduct for carriers actually made them convert their SIMlock departments to be more like a customer retention lifecycle.
This mainly applies to US carriers (in the US and Latam), and there certainly are exceptions in Europe where EVERY cell phone is unlocked from day one, regardless of your contractual status.
[1]: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/08/15/heres-h...
There are many more locked phones in drawers or acting as mere paperweights than people actually care to disclose.
Several years back we ran a poll to understand lifetime recycling habits. People aren't proud of dropping a phone and shattering the screen, but they are less proud of having thrown a phone into a drawer because they couldn't be bothered to run the obstacle course set up by their telco to keep them in check.
Phone right-to-repair should be EXPLICITLY INCLUSIVE of unlocking, otherwise it is only solving a part of the problem.