fwdpropaganda
Joined 9 years ago
Joined 9 years ago
Especially in fields like physics there are many limits that you can derive analytically. Some times those are highly non-trivial.
A) embarassement at having other people see how bad it is. Not necessarily wrong, but bad in other ways.
B) wanting to keep an advantage by continuing to publish on top of the work already done, whereas anyone else wanting to get in on the same idea would have to first re-build the original work.
Correct. Ironically the person you're responding had an issue with the black and white claim that "socialism=communism" and wanted to add nuance, and did that by presenting a black and white claim that "the nazis were socialists", which is a claim that could use a lot more nuance.
I mostly disagree when you say that Nazis were socialists. Of those people who supported the Nazis, the vast majority did so in part because the Nazis marketed themselves to those people as socialists. On the other hand, Hitler marketed the Nazis to "the industrialists" as enemies of the communists: in Germany too communism and socialism was bundled together. So I would say it's more accurate that Nazism was a bunch of marketing ideas that Hitler et al used to grab power.
Now, you could say the same thing about the soviets, that their ideology was just a tool for grabbing power. They might have flipfloped on other topics, but I don't think they flipfloped on the specific topic of socialism.
I would say that if these people are the best, they it couldn't have taken them this long to figure out what's obvious to so many of no.
No, these are rats leaving the ship.