fbouvier
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Comment · 1 month ago
Well bypassing anti-bot is not our focus. For us stable means having a stable web browser engine, ie. being able to handle webpages as close as possible as the specs and the traditional browsers like Chrome.
Comment · 1 month ago
When I started this project more than 4 years ago (without LLM coding back then), I was confident I could build a browser from scratch in a systems language like Zig.
The further I got, the more I realized what kind of madness I had gotten myself into, and dragged everyone who followed me into.
But in the end we made it: a working browser, used for billions of requests every day. Thanks to everyone who made this possible! Still a lot of work to do, obviously...
Comment · 9 months ago
Keeping some kind of style information is definitely important to understand the semantics of the webpage.
Comment · 9 months ago
Thanks Steeve!
Comment · 9 months ago
Yes HTML is too heavy and too expensive for LLM. We are working on a text-based format more suitable for AI.
Comment · 9 months ago
Thanks for the feedback, we will try to make this clearer on the website. Lightpanda works with Playwright, and we have some docs[1] and examples[2] available.
Web APIs and CDP specifications are huge, so this is still a work in progess. Many websites and scripts already work, while others do not, it really depends on the case. For example, on the CDP side, we are currently working on adding an Accessibility tree implentation.
[1] https://lightpanda.io/docs/quickstart/build-your-first-extra...
[2] https://github.com/lightpanda-io/demo/tree/main/playwright
Comment · 9 months ago
Hi, I am Francis, founder of Lightpanda. We wrote a full article explaining why we choose Zig over Rust or C++, if you are interested: https://lightpanda.io/blog/posts/why-we-built-lightpanda-in-...
Our goal is to build a headless browser, rather than a general purpose browser like Servo or Chrome. It's already available if you would like to try it: https://lightpanda.io/docs/open-source/installation
Comment · 1 year ago
And some lightweight alternatives like Bellard's QuickJS (https://bellard.org/quickjs/) in C and Kiesel (https://kiesel.dev/) in Zig.
Comment · 1 year ago
Yes, argentic workflows are one of our use cases for Lightpanda.
We skip the graphical rendering of the web page for instant startup, fast execution and low resources usage.
Comment · 1 year ago
It might works if you need to handle a few websites. But this retro engineering approach is not maintainable if you want to handle hundreds or thousands of websites.
Comment · 1 year ago
I don't expect it to change a lot. All the main components are there, it's mainly a question of coverage now.
Comment · 1 year ago
Not now but we might do it in the future. It's easy to export a Zig project as a C ABI library.