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Founder shorebird.dev. Previously founded flutter.dev. YC '06.
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Comment · 8 months ago
Shorebird | Mid/Senior Software Engineer (Cloud) | REMOTE (North America) | Full-time | $150-220k + equity + benefits | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. I built Flutter at Google. Now we’ve built a company selling services to 1000s of Flutter-using businesses globally, on track to profitability this year.

We serve 100s of millions of devices from our cloud, (2k+ RPS sustained), built mostly in Dart on Google Cloud + CloudFlare. We’re in the process of launching a series of CI offerings and have a lot of cloud development work ahead of us. You need production cloud experience, want to work at a startup, and be up for the challenge of owning, developing, and expanding Shorebird’s cloud infrastructure and backend services including code, configuration, architecture, and more. Previous Dart experience is not required.

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: GCP, Cloudflare, Dart, Postgres, a little React & Node. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 8 months ago
Shorebird | Mid-Senior Backend/Cloud Engineer (Dart) | REMOTE (North America) | Full-time | $150-220k + equity + benefits | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter/Shorebird founder here. Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. We offer Flutter-related SAAS used by 1000s businesses globally, on track to profitability mid 2026.

We serve 100s of millions of devices from our cloud, (2k+ RPS sustained), built mostly in Dart on Google Cloud + CloudFlare. We’re in the process of launching a series of CI offerings and have a lot of cloud development work ahead of us. You need production cloud experience, want to work at a startup, and be up for the challenge of owning, developing, and expanding Shorebird’s cloud infrastructure and backend services including code, configuration, architecture, and more. Previous Dart experience is not required.

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: GCP, Cloudflare, Dart, Postgres, a little React & Node. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 9 months ago
Former Flutter Director, Shorebird founder here. Yes, that matches my understanding. The layoffs happened after I left Google, but yes Google appears to have simply off-shored the infrastructure (build and release) team.
Comment · 10 months ago
Shorebird | Mid-Senior C++/Runtime OR Dart/Cloud Engineers | REMOTE (North America) | Full-time | $150-230k + equity + benefits | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter/Shorebird founder here. Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. We offer Flutter-related SAAS used by 1000s businesses globally, on track to profitability early 2026.

As part of our over-the-air updates “code push” product, we’ve built a custom compiler and runtime for the Dart language, primarily written by me (founder/CEO). We need a fulltime engineer to take over primary responsibility for all of our C++ code (Dart & Flutter forks, custom runtime, compiler, etc.) and evolve it further than I could alone. You don’t need to be a compiler/runtime expert. You do need to be capable of working on large open source projects, be comfortable with C++, want to work at a startup, work well independently (we’re remote) and want to learn and work on lots of different areas of code. If you’ve contributed at least a little to WebKit, Godot, Firefox, or any other open source project and are at least compiler/runtime curious, you will likely find this role extremely rewarding.

For our second role: we serve 10s of millions of devices daily from our cloud, (2k+ RPS sustained), built mostly in Dart on Google Cloud + CloudFlare. We’re in the process of launching a CI product and have a lot of cloud development work ahead of us. You need some cloud experience, want to work at a startup, and be willing to work in Dart (what our customers use).

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: GCP, Cloudflare, React, Dart, C++, Rust. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 11 months ago
Shorebird | Mid-Senior Systems/Runtime (C++) Engineer| REMOTE (North America) | Full-time | $160-230k + equity + benefits | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter/Shorebird founder here. Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. We offer Flutter-related SAAS used by 1000s businesses globally, on track to profitability early 2026.

As part of our over-the-air updates “code push” product, we’ve built a custom compiler and runtime for the Dart language, primarily written by me (founder/CEO). Now that we have thousands of customers, I have many other responsibilities and need to bring on a fulltime engineer (you!) to take over primary responsibility for all of our C++ code (Dart & Flutter forks, custom runtime, compiler, etc.) and evolve it further than I could alone. Together, you and I will add obfuscation, improve our interpreter, possibly re-write method dispatch, etc. You don’t need to be a compiler/runtime expert. You do need to be capable of working on large open source projects, be comfortable with C++, want to work at a startup, work well independently (we’re remote) and want to learn and work on lots of different areas of code.

If you’ve contributed at least a little to WebKit, Godot, Firefox, or any other large open source project, are compiler/runtime curious, and want to work at a growing startup, you will likely find this role extremely rewarding.

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: GCP, Cloudflare, React, Dart, C++, Rust. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 1 year ago
Shorebird | Mid-Senior Web Full Stack | Remote (North America) | Full-time | $160-230k + equity + benefits | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter/Shorebird founder here. Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. We offer Flutter-related SAAS used by 1000s businesses globally, on track to profitability early 2026. Need your help to improve/own our front-ends all written in React.

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: GCP, Cloudflare, React, Dart. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 1 year ago
Shorebird | Mid-Senior across Web, Dart, Full Stack or C++ | Remote (North America) | Full-time | $150-230k + equity | https://shorebird.dev

Flutter/Shorebird founder here. Flutter is used by millions of devs (and nearly ⅓ of free apps submitted to AppStore), but is missing services for businesses. We sell Flutter-related Saas to 1000s businesses globally, on track to profitability early 2026. Need your help to build more products for Flutter developers.

We’re a small, senior team, making something people want. Tech: Dart, GCP, Cloudflare, React, C++. Shorebird operates almost entirely in the public over Discord. https://discord.gg/shorebird

https://shorebird.dev/jobs

Comment · 1 year ago
Google announced 2 years ago they would be adding "macros" support to the Dart language. They stopped that work yesterday. As former Eng Director of Dart (and co-founder of Flutter) I've offered my hot-take.
Comment · 1 year ago
I agree, Dart's public-facing codegen system (build_runner) leaves a lot to be desired. (In part the problem is that Dart uses a separate system inside Google.)

However, this is a topic of active work for the Dart team: https://github.com/dart-lang/build/issues/3800. I'm sure they would welcome your feedback, particularly if you have examples you can share.

You're also always welcome to reach out to me if you have Flutter/Dart concerns. I founded the Flutter project (and briefly led the Dart team) and care a great deal about customer success with both. [email protected] reaches me.

Comment · 1 year ago
I'm not sure what that would look like. Flutter mostly written in Dart itself (the framework, tooling, etc). The Flutter Engine (C++) is probably less than 1/3rd of Flutter, but could certainly be made portable to other languages if that were useful, but I suspect said languages would just fork it or write their own.
Comment · 1 year ago
We considered Go! At the time it was much more designed for servers than mobile devices. If I recall correctly the minimum binary size was like 30mb or something.
Comment · 1 year ago
I think you're not wrong about JS target being unnecessarily limiting. The problem is that a 250B/year business is written on top of Dart's JS transpiler (Google Ads) so it seems unlikely to be removed from the language anytime soon (maybe Dart2Wasm could allow that?).

It's pretty neat that Dart's JS support means you can take your code (e.g Flutter app) to the web, but I think that whole aspect of the ecosystem is underexplored/underdeveloped as of yet.

Comment · 1 year ago
Makes sense. Google is a very large and diverse place. (And sometimes a lot of unpleasant infighting and politicking around tech choices.)
Comment · 1 year ago
We started Flutter in 2014 and made the decision to switch to Dart in ~Jan 2015 iirc.

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