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But you wrote: "There are now multiple posts from vuln research teams all of whom have working RCE POCs against unmodified PHP applications." ? Are those "multiple posts" top secret?

Look up the paradox of tolerance. The tolerant should tolerate everyone except the intolerant. Trump and his cronies are clearly intolerant. Same reason you can’t let the neo-nazis hang out in your bar. They ruin it for everyone else.

“It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out.” — Carl Sagan

While I have my reservations about Amodei and his company, I'm nevertheless a happy user of their software. And I'm in agreement with him (and Sanders) that we should all. slow. down.

To my mind, the last great arms race between nation states was a misdirected love triangle between USA, Russia, and The Bomb, and look at all the damage that did.

Since AI is the new arms race between USA and China, slowing down may just give the humans involved enough time to realize they should be loving one another, instead of the machines.

Maybe saying, "let's slow down", is another way of saying, "I love you."

Or, maybe it's just: "let's not all of humanity kill ourselves like some bad ending to a Shakespearean tragedy."

Either way, it's a better note than, "We must achieve sea/air/nuclear/quantum/AI/spiritual supremacy before those other bastards do!"

Thanks for asking the question.

Preface: I do think the nature of the work is changing, now that LLMs are capable code generators. And I'll admit that I started working with LLMs because of FOMO, but also to keep my skills sharp in an evolving market. I'm not 100% certain this will pan out, but I do think that working with LLMs is a skill unto itself, and I feel that I'm much better at it now than I was when I started (in earnest, roughly) a year ago.

Q: What's my setup like? A: I'm using both Claude Code and opencode w/ DeepSeek flash. Recently I've started providing the task context to both simultaneously, and then have one act as a real-time reviewer, and one as implementer. I don't consistently use one or the other for implementer, and I'm still learning their capabilities and "who's good at what." But this allows me to get one model to provide an instantaneous code review to the other, as soon as the one model is done writing the code. I set my permissions for both to ask every time on every action: Read, Write, Bash, etc. I grew up playing turn-based RPGs, so I prefer turn-based battle to real-time.

Q: What kind of work I offload, vs do myself. A: Almost all of the code is written by an LLM, but, since I'm reading and rejecting a lot of code, and basically micro-managing them, I feel that the code that's generated is roughly what I would have written myself. Work that I don't offload is any kind of email or communication, or non-code writing, with the exception of README files, and the prose session summaries I have them write.

Q: How do I make it enjoyable? A: I make it enjoyable by finding new ways to work with the LLMs, and specifically, getting them to produce better quality code. The real-time code review process I outlined above is one method, but I've also found that the LLM will write better code when given a "guiding principles" document.

HTH

Let me propose: HNmind.

Culture flows from the top. Bill doesn’t take responsibility in his email, so he’s teaching everyone downstream to pass the buck like he does.

I'm only running a few agents in parallel so far, but I don't let them write or read anything w/out my approval. This slows things down quite a bit, but it means that I have exactly the opposite of your problem of stopping them.

I've only started really thinking about developing my own harness, but one of the reasons would be to implement some mechanism where I could give the agent a "turn budget", say, 5 turns, when I can clearly see what the agent is going to be doing for the next few turns, without my needing to allow each turn to go forward.

But it sounds like the same thing would be useful for you as well, just in the other direction.

Could you say more about what "certain points" you're trying to get them to stop at?