dwrensha
Joined 13 years ago
Joined 13 years ago
This morning, a mysterious user named "ranksunbounded" submitted the linked curve, which has rank at least thirty. This breaks the previous record of 29 found by Elkies and Klagsbrun in 2024.
Nobody knows whether it is possible to achieve arbitrarily high ranks.
The computer-assisted component of the Noperthedron proof is a reasonably small sagemath program that was (as far as I know) written by humans: https://github.com/Jakob256/Rupert
Perhaps you have confused this article with a recent unrelated announcement about a vibe-coded proof of an Erdos conjecture? https://borisalexeev.com/pdf/erdos707.pdf
That's me!
This result appears to be significantly harder to formalize.
Steininger and Yurkevich's proof certificate is a 2.5GB tree that partitions the state space into 18 million cells and takes 30 hours to validate in SageMath.
Formalizing the various helper lemmas in the paper does seem achievable to me, but I suspect that applying them to all of the millions of cells as part of a single Lean theorem could present some significant engineering difficulties. I think it'd be a fun challenge!
If that turns out to be infeasible, an alternate approach might be: we could write a Lean proof that the 2.5GB tree faithfully encodes the original problem, while still delegating the validation of that tree to an external SageMath process. Such a formalization would at least increase our confidence that there are no math errors in the setup. A similar approach was taken recently by Bernardo Subercaseaux et al in their recent paper where they formally verified a SAT-solver encoding for the "empty hexagon number": https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.17370
https://github.com/google-deepmind/formal-conjectures/blob/1...
I wonder how feasible it would be to formalize this new proof in Lean.
As far as I know, based on published systems like LeanDojo [1] and Magnushammer [2], computers today can only solve a small handful of the very easiest of these problems (like maybe Imo1959P1).
That may be true someday, but it's not yet! That's exactly what the IMO Grand Challenge is about, and nobody has gotten close to solving it.
The AI MO prize is "informal to informal" -- a solver is given a problem in natural language and must produce a solution in natural language.
My belief is that the best way to get to "informal to informal" is to first solve "formal to formal", but not everyone thinks so.
Thank for you the emphasis on openness!
Are there any particular pain points that you want to call attention to?
3-minute video explanation: https://youtu.be/LjOHnXRIp4Y
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