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Good catch. I just fixed it!

Learning new abstractions is not a good argument though. Did hardware engineers from the pre-OS era complain about Linux / OS hard to understand?

In a sense, kubernetes is the new Linux / Bash of our time.

If it's painful, maybe it's just the abstraction not done right, but not the fault of abstraction itself.

Can't believe no one mentions Salesforce

I like the comparison. Both types of people chase the most important problem.

Having met people from both groups, the other word I hear a lot is impact. That's a qualitative metric to define success.

What you are doing is pretty cool. Too bad I'm based in Canada.

> People believe in what they choose to believe.

The same thing can be said about what you are believing about Chinese governments.

How would you be sure that you are not biased because of all the western media you consumed?

Have you been to China and seen what happened there?

Your friend may have access to information on both sides and made the judgement. I would think twice before you ignore this.

> The irony is that these "anti democracy" protestors are exercising their democratic right to protest!

It's also irony that when "protestors" (or just people voicing their opinions) exercising democratic rights to protest are treated differently because they don't agree with your view.

From what I chatted with my friends, this is not about loyalty to any party. It's as simple as, when people spreads misinformation about your hometown, others seeing them and starting to talk legitimate shit about your hometown, you feel angry and voice your strong opposite opinions.

> Others could be simply influenced by the CCP mouthpiece Yeah, right. A large number of Chinese students/immigrants, being in Australian democracy and with access to all press articles on both sides, have lost their judgements and can't tell what are facts at all.

> some could actually be paid - the stakes are high enough. Please back this claim with sources.

From my experience, the people sharing the posts are ordinary people, who simply voice their concerns. Given the sheet number of them, paying them is not practical.

The irony is that we did see some posts about HK "pro-democracy" organizers paying protesters for them to go on the streets.

There aren't always clear definitions of these types of accounts.

Hypothetically, one ordinary twitter account saw the posts / GIFs / words that are close to the version they like, and retweet them. When the number of accounts is large, do you ban them all? When you remove the tweet, the real users retweeting the content loses the content and feels the platform is unfair. You bear the risk of banning real users.

Also, how would you judge a post is inauthentic? You look at the content! Judging by the posting pattern alone is arguably not enough. This is why Twitter's claim that banning is not based on content is questionable.

Things won't turn to be bright overnight. Openness and no bullying is nice. But it takes time to get there. Some counterexamples are Iraq or Libya. Governments changed overnight to be closer to the way Westerners like. But are people better off? Civil wars. Ethnic group divides. Oil interests.

It's easier to point out things you don't like when things aren't the way you like than offer pragmatic solutions.

From what I saw, `constant monitoring and systems like "social credit"` won't buy loyalty. Ordinary people do that more out of patriotism, an emotion against those who spread misinformation against their country. It's sort of like someone talking shit about your hometown, and you feel the urge to defend. Not a state-sponsored thing.