danilocampos

>This whole discussion is absurd. Next thing we'll hear is that swimming pools are racist.

Um. For a long time they were. Public pools were subject to racial segregation.

Glad we have an expert on racism like yourself to help set us all straight here!

So you worked with film at the apex of its technological development and that makes you an expert on the beginning of the color era, when that technology was exceptionally expensive?

Cool story, bro.

Twenty years of Photoshop and actual, honest-to-God darkroom experience enough for you?

This community is so intellectually bankrupt.

Everyone needs someone saying something like the N word in an official document before they can buy that racism exists. It's not possible that capital follows racial lines (spoiler: it does) and that therefore incentivized products to develop in a particular direction, to appeal to the folks with money? You don't need "overt racism." You don't need a guy twirling his mustache, spouting white supremacist rants.

You just need wild, race-based income inequality.

Guess what?

That happened.

So to your mind it's more likely that the author is telling fish stories than it is the dominant financial caste ended up optimizing a given piece of tech to their best interest?

Bokay.

It's hardly an accident that one of the most successful capitalist systems in the history of the world has, since the automation of agriculture, shifted to storing millions of people (read: excess labor) in a vast, growing prison system.

You completely missed the "proportionally more dropping out," therefore expending three paragraphs saying nothing.

This is called the pipeline fallacy and ignores that companies hire at dramatically lower rates (0%-2% for blacks, 2%-3% for latinos) than there are graduates (4%-8%, depending on your source) for a given underrepresented background

The catch is Apple's supply chain management just got a ton simpler as they don't have to maintain separate SKUs by carrier for each iPad variant.

Well, I should hope so. That is part of why we link to them.

His words speak for themselves. His profile announced his role and place of work.

So, for me, as a person who's got a couple layers of outsider-ness from the typical tech workforce, I would be extremely uncomfortable working with this person. This is a person who made clear they supported public forums being open for bigots to say what they like.

So they can be educated.

Dang. That's awful. It suggests a terrifying lack of empathy. It's something I would want to know about. And certainly not something I'd want in a colleague.

Freedom to speak is not freedom from accountability.

I'm not here merely to help women.

I'm here to fight marginalization. That's my fight, too. In quite a big way.

I respect that your approach may be different from my own—as marginalized individuals, we do have common cause.

You can and should view HN however you'd like. But there's a lot to be angry about on the merits. And a lot to be angry about when those problems are excused or dismissed. I can't apologize for that. And I must maintain my original position: I would loathe to work with someone who is this unaware.

Where I do apologize is if my tone carried a righteousness you found alienating, and if my frustrated words denied you the sense of solidarity I would aspire to offer. That's crummy and worth examination.

Thank you for your candor and clarity.

> You know nothing about me except that I criticized your post for being misrepresentative. That's all.

I know you made the top comment on my article say you're glad when people say bigoted things so that the folks most impacted by them have to donate time to educating them. 'Bout all I really need.

> There are much more effective, humane ways to win the hearts and minds of others and achieve your goals.

Did you miss the part where I said that wasn't anything close to my goal?

Again: I expect people to demand the right things because they're the right things. Not because people are "nice" or not.

> you call me more names

Citation needed.

> When I say that I feel victimized by you

Whew. The privilege to call being disagreed with "victimization." Incredible. Tech in a nutshell, right here.