contactdick

I don't think an analogy about hammers is a particularly strong way to make a case for or against software frameworks. There are many situations where a framework makes a lot of sense and lots of situations where they don't. Some simple heuristics like ' you don't want to use a framework when your project has the following properties... ' would explain the case better and also help create discourse rather than black and white opinionating.

Pretty much, I'm simply trying to understand what the fundamental value of the currency is. The reason i'm using illegal goods is that they are the only ones i can find whose exchange must be in bitcoing (yes there are some other smaller goods but nothing on that scale).

that's the current market value yes, i'm trying to estimate the fundamental value

Thanks, I'll think of how i can put the order process into a video.

And yes, building up trust is a very difficult problem which may prove un-solveable.

Thanks good point.

Absolutely. But I think there is a disconnect raganwald points out between the owners / managers who had the idea of going to groupon and the staff who feel it's effects.