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Comment · 1 year ago
I was referring to generated or disposable card numbers rather than stolen. maybe that is the confusion?

An concrete examples of converting a user using these types of cards for free trial abuse is a user who signed up 8 week in a row using different emails, names, IPs and cards. Nudging of these users was enabled and on trying to sign up for their 9th trial they immediately switched back to their original account and converted at full price.

Comment · 1 year ago
100%! This was easy and now it is frustrating to get to the thing they want, the service, and the easiest route is to pay.
Comment · 1 year ago
There are obviously people who are doing free trial abuse for commercial gain eg. Signing up 1k accounts to get test credit cards or to resell accounts. They are not going to convert (although sometimes you can successfully convert them into affiliates)

We have seen individuals just trying to get free accounts week after week, who when nudged once pay immediately thousands of dollars even after using fake, stolen or empty cards.

These individuals think they are being cheeky and when they are 'caught' they revert to doing the right thing.

Comment · 1 year ago
Free tier and free trial abuse is a huge problem, but also a huge opportunity.

We have seen customers where free tier abusers created 80k+ accounts in a day and cost millions of dollars. We have also seen businesses, like Oddsjam add significant revenue by prompting abusers to pay.

The phycology of abuse is also quite interesting, where even what appears to be serious abusers (think fake credit cards, new email accounts etc.) will refuse a discount and pay full price if they feel they 'got caught'

Comment · 2 years ago
OP here, I was trying to say that these pages were behind an authwall and loading with userids from a specific user but without any of their cookies to support that auth.

This led us to believe this page was MitM rather than crawled directly (as they would not be able to impersonate the user)

Comment · 2 years ago
This looks exactly like it!! Nice find!
Comment · 2 years ago
Josh on our team is so happy people discovered and liked his easter egg!
Comment · 2 years ago
Browser extension is what we originally thought for exactly the same reasons you did. We started to see some requests show up from iOS devices which didn't support extensions so that made us think MitM corporate proxies.

The diversity of cloud networks looks to be due to these being deployed by individual institutions (eg. universities, corporations etc.) rather than only run from Palo Alto Network's data centers.

We also saw slightly different configurations with different browser versions, but with the same pattern of behaviour.

Comment · 2 years ago
That was on my list of candidates as well! Those usually have a specific user agent making it clear what they are, they appear from a companies netblock (eg. Facebook, Microsoft) and cannot access authed pages (unless the key is in the url).

In this case these appeared to be all MitM'ed pages from a security device since the key wasn't in the url and it contained userids for a specific user.

Comment · 2 years ago
Exactly! Our library is embedding in these pages and similar to Segment or other analytics tools will get told information about user events from that state. Sometimes that state is stored in the page that is sent over the wire (eg. userid) and as such we get a request saying a particular user is on the other side of the world.
Comment · 2 years ago
It appears this is to find threats that might have no otherwise triggered or work out is particular sites are dangerous without monitoring a users machine.

It is scary that for people in a corporate environment this could be rendering banking, messaging or any other pages contents.

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