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The only breaking thing was a huge (almost bloated) memory consumption. At that time lnav basically just kept everything in memory. Does anyone did that change?
Killer feature is multiple plans per customer.
What's your approach to 3DS and related race-conditions for subscriptions? In my experience 3DS is by far the biggest problem for subscription integrations - not the webhooks.
This used to be the case back in 2015, but not anymore. The financial compliance is more strict now. You have to charge taxes. EU enforced SCA / 3DS in 2019. All of these are hard to implement (correctly) on their own - almost impossible together.
Source: I run (paid) Ruby on Rails library for Stripe subscriptions integrations. I also do billing audits. Here's an example audit where I pay $30, get ~$2000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuXp7V4nanU
"Friendly Attributes" is not the "new way", not to be used "everywhere now", does not "apply to all scenarios".
If you like it, maybe you'll use it once in the next five years when the opportunity arises.
If you want to make it even shorter, you have a few options - it really just comes down to preference:
# Option 1. my personal favorite, follows structure of
# intervals and plans on a pricing page.
1.month => {red: 10, blue: 120},
1.year => {red: 120, blue: 300}
# Option 2. this is fine too
red: {1.month => 10, 1.year => 120},
blue: {1.month => 120, 1.year => 300}
# Option 3. possible and works, but hurts my brain, NOT recommended
10 => {red: 1.month},
120 => {red: 1.year, blue: 1.month},
300 => {blue: 1.year}
> there is always at least one attribute that serves as a "discriminator" between the billing plans, rightJust a note: if you try to create two plans with the same attributes, that would error because of ActiveRecord uniqueness validations (and DB constraints). No point in having multiple identical plans.
Just a small Ruby syntax correction for your example:
Billing::Plan.find_or_create_all_by_attrs!(
standard: {1.month => 10, 1.year => 100},
...
)How would you then call the objects that store costs and billing frequency? :)
Here's what Stripe uses:
- Product: "describes the goods or services". This is where you define a (plan) name and features.
- Price: defines the amount, currency, and (optional) billing interval. Since interval is optional, Prices can be used to define both recurring, and one-off purchases.
Technically, using Prices for recurring, and one-off payments is a brilliant idea. The problem is, no one refers to recurring payments as "prices". Everyone calls a "$50 per year" option a "plan".
But, in principle I agree billing, even the simple SaaS stuff, is much harder than most people expect it to be in 2025. My product (linked in the original article) is based completely on Stripe Billing - and it is still very hard to avoid all the footguns.
For people wondering, I even have an example how wrong it can go: I "audited" a successful SaaS I know uses custom Stripe billing. I paid $30 for a starter plan, but was able to "upgrade" to $2k plain for free. Here's the full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuXp7V4nanU
Here's the example that runs in hundreds of integration tests:
expect(billing_pricing_plans).to eq billing_plans(
1.month => [:free, :premium, :pro, :enterprise],
1.year => [:free, :premium, :pro, :enterprise]
)
It asserts what plans the customers see on the pricing page.Let's take this example from the article:
Billing::Plan.find_or_create_all_by_attrs!(
1.month => {standard: 10, pro: 50, enterprise: 100},
1.year => {standard: 100, pro: 500, enterprise: 1000}
)
This ensures six billing plans are created. That means 6 DB queries and 6 Stripe API queries, at a minimum.
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