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> I'll never really understand how they ruined the opportunity presented, but they really soured people on their value proposition.

I think that they took the opportunity and milked it as much as they could. They are making a lot of money, have a ton of subscriber and are very successful.

They don't care if you are happy about the service as long as enough people pay for it. And it seems to be working.

The end result will be the same but I can give 3 docker commands to a new hire and they will be able to set up the stack on their MacBook or Linux or Windows system in 10 minutes.

Nix is, as far as I know, not there and we would probably need weeks of training to get the same result.

Most of the time the value of a solution is not in its technical perfection but in how many people already know it, documentation, and more important all the dumb tooling that's around it!

> I genuinely don't understand what docker brings to the table. I mean, I get the value prop. But it's really not that hard to set up http on vanilla Ubuntu (or God forbid, OpenBSD) and not really have issues.

For me, as an ex-ops, the value proposition is to be able to package a complex stack made of one or more db, several services and tools (ours and external), + describe the interface of these services with the system in a standard way (env vars + mounts points).

It massively simplify the onboarding experience, make updating the stack trivial, and also allow devs, ci and prod to run the same version of all the libraries and services.

> Every developer is using LLM

Citation needed. In my circles, Senior engineer are not using them a lot, or in very specific use cases. My company is blocking LLMs use apart from a few pilots (which I am part of, and while claude code is cool, its effectiveness on a 10-year old distributed codebase is pretty low).

You can't make sweeping statements like this, software engineering is a large field.

And I use claude code for my personal projects, I think it's really cool. But the code quality is still not there.

Depends, in France for instance all the cards are dual "VISA/Mastercard" and "CB ". They will use CB in france and use the partner network in foreign countries.

And how would the LLM know that a comment in english in a random forum is applicable to a specific country but not another?

UK, US, Australia all have different rules and regulations, but their websites don't exactly advertise their location. It is implied that you visit them based on your country. The UK has a weird mix of metric and imperial, so you can't even use the units to figure it out!! It's not always easy to figure it out, even for a human.

And chatgpt is going to pull the data from an random UK website when you are in the US and vice-versa, and will augment it with knowledge from its model that come from a reddit thread from 2010 written by an italian plumber.

I saw that on the DIY Uk subreddit where people were confused because ChatGPT was answering question using american standards. It's really hard to answer questions based on regional tribal knowledge.

Apparently a good source are the tradesmens shop? THey might know their customers? Word-of-mouth?

Yes, you are right, I missed it at first. I read it as another message from AI evangelists that overpromise every aspects of AI.

After I finished writing the message I realized that you were blind but I was too enraged to do the right thing and scrape the message. When I came back to my senses the anti-procastination had kicked in and I couldn't edit it.

I am sorry losing my temper, and I am very happy that this tech is able to be useful to you, and I think that it is a fantastic use case.

Now I need to get off the internet, it just brings the worst in me.

> - Have a real time video conversation with an AI which can see what you see, translate between languages, read text, recognize objects, and interact with the real world.

Maybe it's me having an extremely low imagination, but that stuff existed for a while in the shape of google lens and the various vision flavor of LLMs, and I must have used them.... 3 times in years, and not once did I think "Gosh I wish I could just ask a question aloud while walking in the street about this building and wait for the answer". It's either important enough that I want to see the wikipedia page straight from google maps and read the whole lot or not.

> an AI which can read text, recognize objects, and interact with the real world.

I can already do that pretty well with my eyeballs, and I don't need to worry about hallucinations, privacy, bad phone signal or my bad english accent. I get that is certainly an amazing tools for people with vision impairments, but that is not the market Meta/OpenAI are aiming for and forcefully trying to shove it into.

So yes, mayyybe if I am in a foreign country I could see a use but I usually want to get _away_ from technology on vacation. So I really don't see the point, but it seems that they believe I am the target audience?

> Self-hosting hundreds of GBs of data isn't feasible

Why wouldn't it be feasible? Storage is cheap, backups are cheap. It's not for everyone, obviously, but for 20 EUR/month you can get a VM with a couple hundred GB of storage and 1TB of backups on a storagebox in hetzner. Or have a raspberry pi with a 1TB SSD in your home, or both!

I use a laptop, desktop PC, phone, and 2 tablets at home. Another PC and laptop and tablet when I visit my parents. Not all of them are mine, and it is _very_ annoying to have to login to a website on them. You have to go through the unlock flow on your own device (long and complicated password) to access the password, and then copy the site-specific password (usually long and complicated) to the new device.

It is a giant pain. I can understand why people wouldn't want to go through it.

What would you use then? I am interested!

Where did you get that from? You are talking about millions of people scattered over hundreds of political entities over hundreds of years. There might have been some commonalities, but certainly not anything like this rule.