austinbirch

Yeah, I can see that. Not disagreeing really.

I found ClojureScript worth it a few years ago. I’ve written two frontend apps (desktop-style interactive single-page applications meant for longer sessions) of reasonable size in ClojureScript. There’s a lot of non-glue code there (in fact mostly non-glue code, given the interactivity and statefulness of the applications).

Very little language and library churn has made maintaining them very straightforward really, and I won’t be rewriting them any time soon. Being able to use DataScript nearly made the choice worth it on it’s own!

The reason I’m mostly using TypeScript these days (for new things & backend code) is that it’s just too helpful for typing the data structures and reducing the "how many things do I have to keep in my head" burden. My TypeScript (like my ClojureScript) is mostly just functions and data structures (avoiding classes, inheritance, etc), and I avoid using any of the more complicated TypeScript features as much as possible.

It’s kind of heretical, but if Clojure had a well-adopted gradual structural type system (essentially what TypeScript has done for JavaScript) then I would find it hard to not pick Clojure for most things.