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>All other browsers require tweaks and changes, while with brave from your first click you are more private, I can give it to my grandma and she would be more private by just using it.
100% false. Ungoogled Chromium and Librewolf have zero telemetry. Brave has telemetry built in. Librewolf also comes with adblock built in, no tweaks required at all. Why should I use Brave over Ungoogled Chromium or Librewolf? Why are you defending a browser that is _not private by default_ when community-driven, conflict of interest free browsers exist?
Are you Brave's native marketing arm at work? When I open up wireshark and I see telemetry sent back to Brave after I open the browser, must be a conspiracy right?
I find it funny that you did not even try to refute the points about them impersonating people to sell their products or the telemetry in their browser. You instead deflected into a combination of "whatabout-ism" and then say the same vague positive statements "Brave is a good browser and a decent search engine."
I think Brave is shady, explain to me why they are not using technical merit. I will fully admit that I may not know all the facts, and I'm willing to hear you out, so explain why they impersonate people to sell their product.
>Do you apply this standard to everything?
Yes, if a company markets one thing, I expect them to deliver on that marketing promise. Brave markets privacy, and they do not deliver.
>I'll just throw out that mine is that you have ideological motives to dislike Brave and those motivate your criticism.
Explain further. What is my motivation here? That I'm tired of the Brave spam? That I want a browser that is actually private, like Librewolf or Ungoogled Chromium?
Yes, its extremely annoying, and I do not trust anyone saying positive things about Brave or its other product offerings. Brave is a shady company that:
>puts profits over privacy
>impersonates well known influencers to sell their products without their knowledge
>constantly pushes their cryptocurrency, functionality completely unrelated to web browsing and of negative value to anyone caring about their privacy
>their search results appear to be based off of google, despite claiming an independent index. all of your queries may just be going to google anyways
>the browser frequently sends telemetry to their servers
>they have consistently added more spyware to the browser unless users en masse call them out, which only happens some of the time
I don't think for a second you are being downvoted by real hacker news users. Brave has created some sort of native marketing arm or something that drowns out any criticisms with vague positive comments like "I've been using brave search, more privacy and better search results than google!". Something is truly fishy about Brave, and I refuse to go anywhere near their products.
Other than that, I think the technologies will always be niche. At the end of the day its cheaper to have a single mutable source than many different immutable sources with a resolution mechanism, and economics tends to move towards the cheaper substitute (also cheaper in terms of complexity, many decisions are made out seeking simplicity, even if the more complex option is the optimal choice).
>For an extra few milliseconds of load time, why not find out things like # of scans, location, browser
Wow, so I get both worse performance and a bunch of trackers to get to my menu, why isn't that just fantastic. Do you even read the things you type?
>We originally built https://autonix.io as a visitor management platform
So your whole post was a thinly veiled marketing scheme to try to sell your tracking product? Good job throwing the "small business" buzzword in there.
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You're not alone, I deleted my Facebook roughly around that same time (in 09 IIRC), and haven't joined any other major social media since (only social media I have left is hacker news and a tiny mastodon instance, and only started using these recently).
I had the same outcome, its a pretty massive blow to one's social life, and looking back it probably was not worth it to leave, but I stand by my decision. My miscalculation was the assumption that social media was a bit of a fad that people would "grow out of". Turned out to be completely the opposite, people I thought would never ever have been on social media are now some of the same people that are on it constantly.
* Palemoon (Goanna engine, derived from Gecko but forked a while ago)
* Netsurf (Independent engine, mostly good for basic HTML pages)
* Pre-2013 Opera (Proprietary Presto engine, no longer maintained, never open sourced)
* IE11 and before (Proprietary Trident engine, going EOL this year, never open sourced)
* Text/terminal browsers (lynx, w3m, etc, independent but only support text in the terminal)
Of those, Palemoon is probably the only contender as an independent browser with open source code that can support at least parts of the modern web (although the experience is rough, Palemoon was forked when Firefox still ran as a single process, meaning a bad tab can crash the whole browser, and web components don't work).
I was going to comment on this. Forums are probably cropping up at a faster pace than ever (its never been easier to host a forum, and we have modern forum software like discourse readily available), its just near impossible to discover them through modern search. Forums, for example, often have long running threads that may span over multiple years with rich sources of useful information, but modern search heavily downranks old (read: less than 1 week) pages unless its a niche query and hosted on $TOP_10K_SITES.