arubania2

> they didn't have antibiotics, anesthesia or life-saving surgeries. They didn't have access to a grocery store a short drive away, or a fire department.

They wouldn't even dream about these things, so they weren't unhappy because of it.

You can't feel like you need something if it doesn't exist (in your era at least).

Today we still don't have casual space travel, time travel, the elixir of life or the wonder drug, but it's not the lack of these things that is making us unhappy.

> there are more effective programs than crossfit

Could you give some examples please?

> No it’s not.

Maybe to _you_, don’t assume other people are the same way.

Along my whole career path (I’m a senior now) I’ve always been curious about the high-level technical stuff and took every opportunity to listen to knowledgeable people.

I think there’s a term for it: incidental knowledge transfer.

You might be stripping that person of the opportunity to grow, or maybe just to hear about something interesting for them to follow up on later.

This is what one-time backup codes are for.

Alternatively you can purchase a hardware key and store it in a trusted place, but admittedly they are expensive, so OTBC is the usual route.

What‘s your speciality in programming?

Keeping all your software, and that includes the OS, up to date, is one of the most important aspects of personal security.

I think they probably mean that this switch is software-based, so turning it on does not physically disconnect the underlying hardware.

I doubt there is any proof that some kind of system activity is still taking place while in airplane mode, but that might be irrelevant.

For some people, depending on their threat model and personal preference, what's important is that it's impossible to prove beyond any doubt that this is _not_ the case.

That is a fair point, indeed this would probably make the configuration page extremely complex. I guess my suggestion would only work for cases where you don’t really care much about other kinds of notifications.

Wasn’t suggesting that anyone should - just wanted to suggest a solution to the problem they described.

You could consider setting up a separate email account just for the verification messages and have that on your phone.

> this is a commercial relationship

100% agreed, therefore, we should keep emotions out of it.

> People going there... could complain. Or take no sugar. Or choose a different coffee shop. Honestly, it's up to them. It's pretty reasonable to feel a bit upset though, I think, in that situation.

Exactly, they can just leave, pick an alternative. Why do they take to social media and cry about it? What do they expect to gain this way?

> You have costs to cover? Well, I'm sure you'll figure something out. You'll probably lose some customers and gain some others. Maybe it'll work out; maybe it won't.

Indeed they have just figured it out - they started charging for sugar. They will lose customers, most likely, but I don't believe they haven't seen that. I'd wager that it's the customers who got caught by surprise, and our now making a big deal out of it.

In short, I agree that we shouldn't have any sympathy for the companies in this case - it's just that I'd extend that to the users as well.