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I think what they mean is that yes, the signalling needs to be done over "traditional" web APIs (websockets, etc), but that's just for discovering/negotiating the p2p connections. The actual data transfer between the peers then happens over UDP which can have a bunch of advantages over TCP for some scenarios.

...who are you arguing with?

cool story, now try writing a "Hello World full stack web app" in turbo pascal.

maybe it's trained on non-published documentation pages?

You do control who you follow on Twitter.

are you asking for examples of things that were outlawed?

the value the js community gets from `fetch` being a unified standard is far, far greater than the benefit you as a developer would get from not having to add 15 extra LOC around `fetch`, that you'll probably hide behind a `fetchJSON` function anyway.

You're going awfully out of your way to not engage with the arguments you're presented with by other people, dismissing them with sardonic one-liners, and making wild assumptions about the motives and thought processes of the Apple employees. If you're not trolling, I suggest you take a couple steps back and reassess the situation, because you're not coming across as a reasonable person.

> I would love to have undo!

not sure if they added this literally in the last 18 hours, but the usual CMD+Z undo shortcut seems to work for me.

No, it's a reverse funnel system.

You expect a (good) product manager to be reasonably technically competent so that they can carry a conversation with business/customers without having to go back to engineering every time to ask "Is this possible?".

Similarly, you can expect a software engineer to be somewhat product competent so they can push back on bad ideas, proactively suggest better ways of doing things, and even connect the business dots and propose entire classes of new features that the PM maybe didn't even realise were possible / within reach.

It's not two roles in one, it's not working 16 hours / day, it's just having the right mix of experience and intuition such that you're still primarily an engineer but you help guide the product.

Nice work moving the goalposts :)

If, being aware of everything that's happening around us, you still choose to represent reality as "ridiculous conspiracy theorizing", then you're either in a cult, or a dedicated troll, neither of which I'm interested in wasting my time debating.

> According to a telegram that remained buried until now in the cache of 250,000 diplomatic cables leaked by WikiLeaks in 2010

care to try that argument again, taking into account how time works?