ahmadyan

Vohuman - Agentastic | San Francisco, Onsite | Full time | $200k+ USD + equity

Hey folks, i'm the founder. Vohuman is an early stage startup focused on building aligned collective intelligence. I'm looking to hire MoTS roles, with specialization in Agentic (obviously) and RL (or both).

You can check out our product here: agentastic.dev and agentastic.com

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You can email me at [email protected]

for other providers, e.g. openai and anthropic, zdr is offered by 3p hyperscaler like aws/azure/gcp, right? they have no reasons to risk their business and piss off their customers.

even in pre-training, usually 30%-50% is code these days.

well, visual studio isn't free. Code is free, and at some point it got so good that folks didn't feel the need to pay for the main suite.

in my experience, tools usually have a longer shelf-life than models/labs. e.g. terminals and IDEs have been around for much longer, and people tend to stick around with their preferred IDEs for much longer (years/decades).

One bad cycle and the next Opus 6 or GPT 7 might flop (think what happend to LLama4 or Gemini), and the user quickly switch to the next best thing. So it make sense to build your tooling to be model-agnostic.

i see your point, in that light what herdr is doing here make sense. keep some part open (e.g. runtime or whatever that means, or the front-end, or the user-facing logic, etc) and move the business-logic/etc to proprietary. So you get to customize the software to meet your needs, and at the same time to create some revenue incentive to grow the company.

alternative is to collect/sell usage data, which is icky, or provide something as a service (token usage, infra, plugins, etc)

Congrats to Can on the pre-seed funding. genuinely wishing you all the best.

The terminal multiplexer / multi-agent coding space is getting very crowded. YC alone has funded many competing startups in this space: herdr, Superset, cmux, Emdash, Orca, Bullet, Conductor (Conductor was in YC before pivoting from chat->coding). I’m probably missing a few, and that’s before counting companies outside YC such as Superlogical and Agentastic.dev (by yours truly).

One thing I find particularly interesting is the role of open source in this market.

A lot of these products started open source (i assume as a tactical way to gain traction and build a community). But after the early traction phase or raise funding, the incentives seem to change.

Being open source by itself is not a product differentiator in this market. The features required for string positioning (orchestration, cloud, custom agents, enterprise features, hosted infrastructure, etc.) often end up either closed source or available only through the hosted product.

That makes me wonder how much developers actually value OSS for this category. How much does it matter to you whether your IDE or coding environment is open source?

Is OSS important because you want to inspect the code, fork it, self-host it, avoid vendor lock-in, or simply because you trust open-source developer tools more? Or, for desktop software like IDEs is open source mostly a nice-to-have rather than a requirement? So I’m curious where HN lands on this

> Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?

Well, i'm trying to do the later, and it is very hard to position the product and differentiate without vertical integration. When Warp owns both agent and the terminal, they can a) give terminal for free and charge on the agent, and b) lock the user in, so it is a good business but poor user experience.

on the other hand, i have to make sure every agent is working which more surface area to maintain, and i'm also limited to the common subset of features. Also it is much harder to convince folks to switch.

Lets try: I support Wezterm (and ghostty, and others) with 40+ different agents (Claude, Codex, etc) in agentastic.dev, would you give it a try?

how?

OpenAI did not launch any hardware (yet), and I don't think their IPO pricing hinges on them launching an iPhone competitor. To me, it looks like Apple wants to launch a similar AI hardware and is slowing-down the competition to be the first-to-market.

Funny thing: they are barking at the wrong tree here.

We used to call b the Disney/LEGO clause. Disney was famous for litigating any GenAI product for copyright infringement if it was able to recognize or god-forbid generate any of their IPs. So the lawyer cats would slip that clause into all licenses.

Personally i think it's fair. You get to use this model as long as you don't sue Meta because of the model's weights or outputs.

Nicely done Geoffrey, I think we are coming full circle, instead of porting projects to different languages (for whatever) like going from zig -> rust -> zig, now we can also add additional hops like zig -> rust -> curse -> ts -> ocaml -> english -> zig.

Thank you for keeping the token furnace burning!

git worktrees are managed by git, not the IDEs. e.g. at agentastic.dev, we use git's worktree command to create them, and they should be portable to any other IDE or app.