adamrt

10 years is far from the truth. SerenityOS was started 8 years ago and ladybird wasn't split from Serenity until 2024 and has an alpha scheduled for release this year.

It's been 2-4 years max.

Good call! I’ve heard Andreas say multiple times building a browser is like building an emulator. Each website uses different features in different ways, and he likens websites to roms.

I agree on it being fantastic.

For your other questions I found these in the linked text

    - https://sr.ht/~jprotopopov/kefir/#goals-and-priorities
    - https://sr.ht/~jprotopopov/kefir/#history-and-future-plans

In the "for ... else" example, am I wrong to think this is a typo? Should it be "if (sample.key == key)". The second example doesn't help clarify since the resulting variable is shadowed by the loop variable (cpu).

    const item = for (let sample .. items) {
        if (item.key == key) {
            break item;
        };
    } else { ... };

I don't have a project to use hare for currently, but I do appreciate most of it's goals. I think it's an admirable project and hope it succeeds in its ambitions.

I believe Chromium is closer to 35m LOC

I think its more of a comment that "err != nil" is used in the vast majority of cases, so you start to treat it as noise and skim it.

Any time I write "if err == nil" I write // inverted just to make it stick out. It would be nice if it was handled by the language but just wanted to share a way to at least make it a bit more visible.

    if err == nil { // inverted
        return err
    }

It really isn't that hard to imagine someone starting a fun hobby project in the language they enjoyed and were the most comfortable with.

> If those opinions match what you're trying to do and you can stay on the golden path, it's freaking great!

That's a great summary. I wrote a few significant flask apps many years ago as well and I'm a huge fan of SQLAlchemy. My flask apps were greenfield so I ended up building crappier versions of alot that Django provides. I still enjoyed it but I wasn't as productive. But with a legacy integration, it would be hard to beat SQLAlchemy (I think its great for greenfield too). I've basically landed on your comment above as well.

I've heard people complain about Django many time on HN. I started using it back in the 0.96 version, so maybe its just a familiarity thing.

But I built 3 large successful applications in it in that time. I loved it. I don't use it regularly anymore since I mostly moved away from webdev, but I recently came back into contact with my largest project I build in 2018/2019 and its been running perfect this whole time and was a pleasure to dive back into.

Django just felt logically organized, documentation was on point, core was very readable (at least then).

I always just felt so productive in it. I know everyone has different opinions, experiences and products they are building, but I'm always surprised with the negative comments. I definitely prefer SSR with its reasonable though, so maybe thats part of it.