abrgr
Joined 11 years ago
Joined 11 years ago
> There exists a higher level problem of holistic system behavior verification
This is the key observation. Strict, code-level verification of every line, while valuable in the small, doesn't contribute very meaningfully to understanding or building confidence in higher level system properties.
I see a future of modules with well defined interfaces and associated contracts. Module level contracts can be formally verified or confidently believed via property based testing. Higher level system behavior can then be proven or tested by assuming the module contracts are upheld.
Module boundaries allow for varying the desired level of confidence module by module (testing, property based testing with variable run time allotments, formal verification).
LLMs can handle each step of that chain today, allowing humans to invest specifically where we want more confidence.
In addition to everything the author mentioned, the constraints of state machines allow a workflow platform to provide a ton of additional guarantees and capabilities around consistency, state propagation, reliable timers, inter-instance messaging, etc.
We built our workflow execution platform [1] around state machines and we've seen great results. We find our workflow code is incredibly simple and easy to understand.
It's such a good fit for multi-step LLM apps and a really nice abstraction for generic backend flows as well.
The next step is to encode your transition logic in the From impls between the enum structs and you've got yourself a first-rate state machine.
It's very similar to a DAG you'd make for a workflow but not necessarily acyclic and events can be sent from external sources as well as internal processes.
States can be grouped into parent states, which gives you some additional nice things like parallel states and also a totally reasonable way to zoom out and hide info in visualizations.
When you have a pure function or a single effect, that should definitely just be a function rather than its own machine. Sate machines are most useful for orchestrating those effectful functions and for situations where you want to accept external events. So you're still writing regular code but you're writing it in small functions that get invoked by the state machine as needed.
That is, state machines don't replace code. They're just a really nice way to organize it.
The old Joel on Software blog has some gems.
They're also a great way for LLMs to produce code. It's human-readable so you can vet that it's doing what you want it to and it's high-level enough that the remaining bits to fill in tend to be small functions that AI can easily generate.
Recently opened up access to a backend as a service [0] for running arbitrary state machines as reliable workflows or real-time backends. After building a bunch of systems on top of this, I'm definitely convinced that this is a better way to structure a lot of systems.
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