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Your point 1 has been my experience and I DO NOT understand why the most upvoted post in this post is saying to have one on ones with every team member on the team and also to have one of ones with related teams. I can't think of a time when that has ever been able to happen, especially on outer teams. Yes, it is ideal. But most teams and people feel like they are too busy all the time and also I have found that if you ask too many questions, sometimes that can be used against you if you don't know the team dynamics at play.

Your point 3 validates that as well.

I feel like this is easier to do as a junior developer than a mid to senior level developer.

Also, I have tried this on a team and one or two would do it but everyone acted like they are too busy. Basically, it was hard to get one on one time to talk to people on the team outside the manager.

Depending on how toxic the job is too, this could be used against you. I don't think it should, but if they expect a mid/senior developer then they could see this as not being senior enough.

How do you handle the above concerns? Both to make people make time for this and also how do you defend against it being used against you? Yes, there is a grace period. But then it feels like even with a grace period, some still find a reason to use it against you.

I don't get the advantage of using supabase or things like it. It feels like you are basically relying on a third party to do the work for you and you are paying them to do it.

Doesn't seem portable at all. If you make your own code, you can move it wherever you want in whatever system you want. It seems like if you use this product, it will get you stuck in that environment and if you need to upgrade, then you are going to have to do the work later on anyways.

What exactly is so great about this product? I'm not saying its bad, I'm just not fully understanding the advantages of using it?

Why would someone want to use this over something like a framework for the backend (that is free) and a database they want and then host it wherever they want? I don't really get why someone who knows how to code would want to pay extra money to build a backend.

Mainly talking about the online conversation around this is hypocritical. Flip the countries around, most twitter accounts support it. Now do it in this direction and twitter accounts are all against it. Its hypocritical in my opinion.

Not speaking necessarily about the people in Mexico City, assuming they didn't immigrate to the USA themselves ever. It would be hypocritical of them though if they did immigrate to the USA at one point and are now complaining about USA citizens immigrating there.

>So...kind of a weird comparison, could be wrong but fair warning, you could catch yourself writing a Youtube comment at any time, any place, without any notice!

Curious, what do you mean by that?

Also, I am mainly speaking about the online conversation around this topic, not so much Mexican citizens in a city. As you say, people can have different opinions on it in that city.

I understand this is a complicated subject with different points of view. I was just posting on here to get what others thought about it.

Ok, but again, there is nothing stopping people from doing this as a group. There is no "magical" structure that comes from a work meeting. A group of people at work can decide to organize something on there own. You are talking about one-on-one stuff, which is different.

>In this case, when someone is being aggressive, I'd just ignore it. Let the market have their say on which product is the better solution without getting into public conflict over it.

While that is nice and all, if someone is actively messing with your rating, that can negatively affect your product from growing regardless of the quality.

There are many example of past products where the "lesser" product won out due to simple weird things like the above. You can't just ignore this stuff all the time. Bigger examples of this happen a lot in tech. Where a large company tries to buy out an idea and if they refuse, they simply make a similar product and then "trash rate" the other product with larger marketing budget and kill it off.

What do you do when you can't ignore it?

>* The business will pay

While possible, I highly doubt getting an even paid for is stopping people from going to do things. If that was the case, restaurants would never be in business.

>* The business will take care of the organizing

Again, same thing. If this was an issue, then restaurants and parks would not exist, people can organize if they really want too.

>* Making it a "work event" gives them slack from family members who might otherwise balk at coworker happy hour

This is possibly the issue, but that sounds like a personal problem for them that they should speak to a therapist about. If they stay after work working longer hours or try to force events to avoid people at their home, then that is there concern and others shouldn't be punished for it. Not to make light of their situation. But people work long hours enough in this country, let people do what they want after work without forcing meetings after work. Which is EXACTLY what these things are, meetings. Anyone who says otherwise, try getting drunk at these meetings and saying whatever you want and see if you still have a job. If it wasn't a meeting, then none of that would matter.

I think your missing the point. If people wanted to talk to each other, they would do that on their own time.

I think maybe ask yourself, why do you need to force this to happen if people really wanted to do this?

If a company can't find time during the day to make time for these meetings, don't expect workers to cut time into there personal lives for these meetings either.