LatencyKills
Joined 12 years ago
Joined 12 years ago
I'm sorry but why would that bother you? Is my experience not valid any longer?
My point was: it is not at all surprising that a lvl 70 was poking through active support tickets because many of us did the same thing. I retired at Chen's level btw.
I don't know how Chen discovered this issue of course but it could have been exactly how I described it.
One of the reasons the world is so fucked up is because people have lost respect for expertise. I was on the original Visual Studio team at Microsoft and helped rebuild Xcode from scratch at Apple. I have 30 years worth of experience building low-level software and that experience matters.
If we were talking about cancer treatments and someone said, "Hey, I've been an oncologist for three decades" it would be ridiculous to not at least listen to what what they had to say.
Experience and expertise matters; now more than ever.
Lastly, why create a new account just to make that comment?
I get "wRiTteN bY aI!" comments on my open source projects when, in fact, I didn't use AI at all. I've considered sharing some of my recent reverse engineering work on HN but am confident that it would devolve into "it must have been written by AI" bs.
Is it important to know if something was created with AI? Yes. But spewing "written by AI!" without reading/evaluating something yourself is just as lazy.
The new generation of engineers will never know a world where all software was written by humans. As someone who spent 22 years writing assembly and low-level C/C++, I think that's a shame. But that is the new reality.
My entire point was that vulnerable (i.e, delusional, psychotic, bipolar, children) cannot always make rational decisions.
China has already banned any LLM from giving any type of medical/psychiatric advice because an LLM company has absolutely no right to allow their product to give out that type of advice.
OpenAI can't even contain its internal models and idiots believe that these companies can do whatever they like.
Read the damn link I shared. People are dying and murdering others because of the advice of LLMs. Children are becoming attached to LLM "friends" because they don't understand what it really is. Hell, most parents I know still don't fully understand the dangers of these models.
If an LLM simply replied, "I'm sorry, I cannot give guidance on that topic" people would still be alive today.
It is amazing to me that people like you understand that LLMs shouldn't be telling people how to make a bomb, but it is totally fine if it tells some who is suicidal to kill themselves.
LLMs can be used for good. Giving bad advice to vulnerable people is NOT good.
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That is what is going on here; not the ancient “hammer/gun” defense.
SOTA LLMs are giving both medical and psychological advice they have absolutely no authority to give. If you or I convinced someone to kill themselves, we’d face a prison sentence. [0]
Hammer companies aren't both selling you the hammer and then literally telling you to harm someone with it.
[0] https://www.npr.org/2019/02/12/693807708/woman-who-provoked-...
> No one is dying from a glorified knowledge base that can do auto correct amazingly well.
All kinds of vulnerable people are dying due to LLMs. [0]
If SOTA LLM companies can benefit from the "intelligence", then they should also be liable for the harm caused.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots
If you believe this move is about making things easier I feel that America is doomed.
Some engineering problems (such as designing a performant thread-quantum algorithm) require depth accumulated over years of working on real systems at scale. That is not elitism; it is simply how specialized expertise works. Experience is unevenly distributed, and that matters when evaluating technical claims.
When I say I trust LLM generated code, I mean that in a qualified, engineering sense. I do not treat an LLM as a slot machine: enter a prompt, paste the output, and hope. I use a deliberate workflow for decomposition, prompting, review, testing, validation, and integration. Developing that workflow took substantial time and experimentation.
The useful question is not “Can an LLM write code without oversight?” It obviously cannot, at least not reliably for nontrivial work. The question is whether an experienced engineer can build a process that makes LLM output trustworthy enough for particular classes of work. In my experience, the answer is yes. But the process, judgment, and willingness to do the work are the hard parts.
This application, named Seymore, is being evaluated for purchase by several tech companies. (It helps having good industry contacts)
There was a ton of interesting engineering required to make this work at 60 fps+ without resorting to hacks or using private APIs. Most macOS engineers wouldn't even know where to start.
I've shipped code that is used by billions of people and all you just did was spew a bunch of bullshit. As someone who has built their own LLM from scratch, I have an extremely good idea of what they can and can't do.
If you don't know how to use these tools, you'll end up with crap. If you DO know how to use them, they are incredibly useful.
I love making tools for developers.
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